Hillary Clinton

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  1. The Walking Dickhead

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  4. The Walking Dickhead

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  6. Vanilla Gorilla

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    I still dont understand the Hillary hate


    Private email server, big fucking deal
     
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  7. The Walking Dickhead

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    You're totally right.

    Like that guy in Austria who kidnapped that girl and kept her locked up for decades.

    I mean, what's wrong with having your own private dungeon?
     
  8. storch

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    I know, right? Such a benign thing. I mean, it isn't like she used her personal email server to conduct her Secretary of State business on. Oops! My bad. That's exactly what she did. But still, it's not like she allowed classified information to pass through her unprotected server. Damn. I almost forgot that that's exactly what she did. But then again, it's not like any of it was classified at the time she sent it. Wait a minute. I think I remember that the classified information that was found on her email server was classified at the time she sent it . Yup, I distinctly recall that. And now that I think about it, that kind of disregard for proper procedure and protocol falls under the category of gross negligence. What else could it be? She was definitely a national security risk.

    But just so I don't let this kind of thing slip my mind in the future, I'll put this up as a reminder to myself (and possibly others) for future reference because believe it or not, there are still people who think that there is nothing there to prove gross negligence.
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    "We do assess that hostile actors gained access to the private commercial email accounts of people with whom Secretary Clinton was in regular contact from her personal account. We also assess that Secretary Clinton's use of a personal email domain was both known by a large number of people and readily apparent."

    "She also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including sending and receiving work-related emails in the territory of sophisticated adversaries. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton's personal email account."
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    Government investigators said Friday that they had discovered classified information on the private email account that Hillary Rodham Clinton used while secretary of state, stating unequivocally that those secrets never should have been stored outside of secure government computer systems. Mrs. Clinton has said for months that she kept no classified information on the private server that she set up in her house so she would not have to carry both a personal phone and a work phone. Her campaign said Friday that any government secrets found on the server had been classified after the fact.

    But the inspectors general of the State Department and the nation's intelligence agencies said the information they found was classified when it was sent and remains so now. Information is considered classified if its disclosure would likely harm national security, and such information can be sent or stored only on computer networks with special safeguards.
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  9. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Lol, yeah that's the same

    Email server, dungeon

    Potato Patato
     
  10. The Walking Dickhead

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    Both are well known places for finding paedophiles or witches?
     
  11. pensfan13

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    i am disappointed storch i thought for sure you would mention how hillary hasnt really accomplished much. sure she held some chairs of power and knows the inner workings of the white house a hell of a lot better than trump but what got done under her watch?
    that brings me to bengazi which i am surprised you dont mention but honestly i dont blame her for that as much as the right does.
    no mention of whitewater?
    no mention of standing by a cheating husband...that one i get though, it was her ticket to the senate and was supposed to be her ticket to the white house.
    no mention of the deathlist.
    no mention of the pardon records?
    no mention of renting out the Lincoln bedroom?
    or how she was supporting socialized medicine long before obamacare...now some could make an argument that it is a good thing but for those who dont it is still a reason not to like her. (btw my doctor retired citing obamacare as the reason why, who the hell did it help if the doctors dont want those jobs because of the lawyers making the decisions rather than the doctors)
    i could list more reasons not to like her but yeah i guess its because of a few emails, well a few thousand emails
     
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    Proving Clinton's unfitness to be president need not go beyond her allowing classified information to pass through her private email server while serving as Secretary of State. Anything more is overkill.
     
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  13. GeorgeJetStoned

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    The real shame is that she was easily more qualified than Obama. The celebrated Clinton Machine was taken down by a rookie with a race card. That's the simple fact of it. Hillary would have easily destroyed McCain or Romney. But the democrats couldn't resist a chance to "make history" and saw Obama as more marketable even though Hillary would also have made history. For some reason they thought the rookie was worth the risk. Seems to have paid off.
     
  14. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Oh lord, did I kill the Hillary thread?

    I hope is was something I said!
     
  15. Ajay0

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    Hillary Clinton was a great chance for America to elect its first female president , joining the ranks of 70 countries around the world which had elected a female president or prime minister. She is highy experienced and seasoned, compared to Trump who is a complete rookie. The kind of administrative and political experience that Clinton has is quite valuable and is no joke.

    Imo, America's biggest issue is not Mexican immigrants, or terrorism, but the increasing number of mass shootouts in American civil society that is plaguing the nation stemming from despair that emanates from materialistic excess. Increasing suicide rates of young women is also a symptom of this.

    A long line of 44 male presidents, with Donan the Barbarian as the 45th , will not solve this problem.


    When I was a student, I had a physics teacher for tuitions who told me that he had four brothers in his family who were often quarreling and at loggerheads with each other. He wished he had a sister who he felt would have brought all the brothers and family together in conciliation and harmony.

    Similarly what America needs is a female president, who can bring greater cohesion and bonding in American society rather than further divisiveness, aggressiveness and chaos that stems from male energies and which charecterises its policies, external and internal.

    Imho, this imbalance is what is at the root of the presiding dysfunction and discontent in American society.


    It is still great that Hilary Clinton has made history as the first serious female contender for the post of President. This can lay the foundation for an actual female president in the future.
     
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    I am guessing that The Server was started to avoid supervision by The White House and Valerie Jarrett.
     
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    I personally don't care what color, gender or gender pronoun is elected to office, I want only the best person for the job. Americans have been way too caught up in this "making history" bullshit since the freakin 70s. Which is exactly why we have Donald Trump heading for the white house. Hillary used to be the right person for the job, until Obama happened. In their haste to "make history" they propped up a rookie instead of Hillary who would have easily defeated McCain. But she was powerless against the race card, something she helped cultivate.

    Doesn't all this "making history" crap seem so manufactured? And for no actual good reasons. If we went on merit and qualifications alone, Hillary should have been president for the last 8 years. Instead, she took a concession prize to step aside for a few years and try again with no minority opposition (just a socialist token). Obama made it easy for the middle class to reject anything democrat for a while, just ask the states as their legislatures get packed with republicans.

    Sure, "making history" is a grand idea and lets us all share in a little moral high ground, sort of like electing a black president. But if the substance doesn't fit the hype, we'll see a hangover. And end up with the person who promises the most greed.
     
  18. Moonglow181

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    If the taxes here go way up much higher......I don't know what we will do....hard times might get harder.
     
  19. Ajay0

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    Obama is easily the most popular American president for a long time world-wide, and he helped America built vital links and connections with Muslim countries which was necessary in the fight against terrorism. I don't think Hilary could have been as successful as Obama in this regard.

    He also enabled America to regain much of its influence and moral standing in the world, which had been diminished by Bush's warmongering and invasion of Iraq, which later was found to be based on false intelligence reports.

    Trump on the other hand can potentially undo all the good work done by Obama , which can bleed America in the long run.
     
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  20. GeorgeJetStoned

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    Obama went around the world and apologized for how horrible America is when America is just a cross section of the entire planet's diversity. Aside from the intangible crap he "did" to make people "feel" good, what was actually accomplished? He raided SNAP to retain union teachers. He turned school lunches from a running joke to a nightmare for little kids (of all colors). And he did nearly nothing about the hideous overreach the government employs to keep so many Americans locked up, in chains so to speak.

    A lot of us thought he was just what we needed since Bush was on the way out and we didn't want the Clintons (clearly). He made a lot of campaign promises that never materialized. In some cases, like race relations, he made things MUCH worse. But somehow, the rookie from Chicago is to go down at "the greatest president of all time"? Hah. He's as politically unimportant as King Tut.

    And of course anyone who dares to speak a word other than praise for him is automatically assigned the "racist" label. Because actual incompetence isn't possible for such a glorified person (complete with dubious Nobel prize), so it MUST be racism. Seriously, who do you know that's doing better today, under Obama's rules? I just shelled out $7,000 plus premiums to deal with 2 kidney stones. The Canadian health care model doesn't work in a nation 10 times the size, where the hell are democrat math skills?

    Not that the republicans are any better. Imagine how fooked we'd be if Bush got away with privatizing social security right before the recession. Most Americans would have lost their safety net entirely and retire in poverty. So don't think for a minute that my lamenting Obama makes me a fascist neocon tea party klansman. I hate both sides nearly equally.

    Thankfully Trump is neither, so we have real change finally. The death card is not always fatal, it might just be the slap in the face America needs. Look how many are already crying like babies in the streets. It's amazing. </popcornrant>
     
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