Hippies in the 60's, going to happen again?

Discussion in 'History' started by Folkhippie90, Nov 3, 2006.

  1. moongazer

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    i truly believe we have the power to start a revolution. i think there's already one in the making, as a matter of fact-there are still stubborn people, unfortunately. it'll take a few years, even. but itll happen.
     
  2. mandell

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    Change is happening all the time. Some events are gradual and take more time to unfold. Yes, I'm sure something similar to the 60's-70's "revolution" is going to happen again, and even that has begun already.


    This time there will be more computers.
     
  3. Hibiscusparadiseyogi

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    I don't see it happening. Revolution may be in the air, but these are different times.
     
  4. dirtydog

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    King George should realize that the immediate cause of the Russian Revolution of November, 1917 (Western calendar) was the attempt of the Russian Crown Prince Nicholas to send the St. Petersburg garrison to the front. At the front, the garrison troops would face Russian winter, German shells and bullets, and poor (or no) supplies, and they knew it. The garrison troops did not want to freeze to death or be shot or blown to bits. With the help of the Bolsheviks and other elements of the Soviets of Workers and Soldiers Deputies, they rebelled and overthrew the government.

    I'm well aware that there are vast differences between Russia, 1917, and USA, 2007. The fact is, people don't like being drafted. The draft has always been kidnapping and enslavement. There is no comparison between U.S. civilian law and the Uniform Code of Military Justice (so-called) to which the slave (draftee) is subjected. Congressmen, Senators and other sheep should keep this in mind.

    (Note: I wasn't sure of the spelling in one case here, so I looked up the word in my favorite dictionary and made the correction.)
     
  5. The manticore

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    so it begins with the draft, or an environmental crisis
     
  6. Ole_Goat

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    I don't think the current war will be the single catalyst for a new era of the 60's movement.
    The counter-culture 60's (the last 3 1/2 - 4 years of the decade) was as much a state of mass mind and a reaction to the events surrounding it. Fueling the times were not only the War in Vietnam and the protests against it, but also the civil rights movement, space program, pot and LSD, and certainly the music, and the assinations of JFK, RFK, and Martin Luther King. The Counter Culture was responsive to all of this. One such response was on display during the '68 Chicago Democratic Convention.

    Like anything new, after a while it gets familar. Once familiar it is at risk of becoming stale. These days there's nothing new with smoking pot (some say the Acid was stronger back then)--High School kids (and younger) have been toking for 35-40 years, Civil Rights movement is as establishment as any Government funded agency (there is little, if any, risk these days involved being proCivil Rights), the space program is on a low priority (budgetwise). As far as the music is concerned--InSync--Back Street Boys--Britney Spears--etc.,need I say more? Any characteristic that made the 60's exiting is very familiar nostalgic today.

    That state of mind, so they say (whoever they are), began to end with the Rolling Stones concert at Altamont Racetrack, 1969. I believe the counter culture finally ended when the U.S. involvement ended in Vietnam. By this time the war was over, at least for us, and there wasn't anything to protest against.

    My short answer is: No-the 60's are forever gone.
     
  7. burnabowl

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    righton.. the modern world will get humbled eventually. At some point times will be so rough that we can't be pacified by being told to go shopping because nothing is being sold anymore. I like the idea of becoming a neo-nomad, and have total mobility...not dependent on a fixed location living in a box I call a house. The time will come that people will have to live that way, living off what they find along the way. Whether it'll be in our lifetimes I don't know. I just hope we make drugs a priority rather than an opprobrium like we do now. People will want plenty of drugs then, and they'll wonder why they didn't do them before the world went away...

    But the world would have no choice but to embrace hippie values at that point...because those values can exist without modern conveniences
     
  8. FrightfulAccountant

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    In the place where I live, hippies are become an absolute minority...

    Even my old New Wave group, appart from the much bigger Gothic and Cyber community, is in numbers much bigger than all Flemisch hippies.

    Most hippies I know, can be asociated with extreem-left organisations, such as communists.

    But again, extreem-left has a minority in my country,
    and I am, as a conservativ Roman-Catholic civilian, not a part of them... :D
     
  9. woodsman

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    What country do you live in?
     
  10. FrightfulAccountant

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    Belgium, Flemisch (Dutch speaking) part ;)

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  11. WOLF ANGEL

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    There is a clear distinction - Hippies in and of the 60s were Pioneers. They laid the seed for free thinking, protest and environmental concern.
    The self-belief in their conviction continues today and still lies within those who believe in their heart, in carrying on this philosophy of life.

    This fight has been, and will continue. It the same old War - just a different tactical battle.

    The legacy of the Hippie for, and of the future, is dependant on the Youth of today. There is always a need for rebellion to ensure evolution.

    Magic is a feeling that comes from the experiences that you make for yourself, so don’t reminisce, - create.

    Hippie-ism is all about striving for change and promoting enlightenment. What was relevant in the 60s isn’t so much the case now. The issues that are with us and will be for our children need to be addressed with a similar amount of vigour and passion.

    There will always be Wars (against more than one enemy) so there should always be Champions for the cause = Hippies

    "60's Children,never grow old - they have free spirit, inner strength and Soul,
    In the Hippie, the future will lie - the guardians of Peace + Love will never die”

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  12. Subliminal89

    Subliminal89 A Tokémon Master

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    nah its not gonna happen again. but the war does continue as billy said. btw that was well put man.
     
  13. Tparkboy

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    Never, I don't care what these other idiots say that are saying yes. It will never happen, its not just my opinion, its a fact. Mr.morrison put it exsactly right. Not today's generation there too ignorant.
     
  14. bigmoney25

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    i am 14 and have some friends that are starting to be. we must get others to be. It is kind of like recruiting we must inform them of how great it really is. I truly believe we can turn back to that generation if we come together as the beatles said.
     
  15. caliente

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    That's exactly what I was going to say. In contrast to the 60's, the younger generations today are too fractured by their various contingents to mount a unified front.

    Several people have remarked that "history repeats itself". In some things it does, some it doesn't. But when it does, it's pretty much accidental. I don't think "history repeating itself" is an invariate law built into the fabric of the universe, and it's not something you can count on.

    The counter-culture of the 60's was brought together by a unique combination of circumstances ... the Vietnam war, the Pill, the availability of certain drugs, new kinds of music and clothes and hair styles, and a backlash against the materialistic apathy of the 50's (which in turn was a backlash against the austerity imposed by World War II). Not to mention the propitious emergence of just the right leaders at just the right time, which always helps.

    It's not likely that such a combination will ever exist again, so whatever "new" hippie movement comes about will necessarily be something totally different.

    There's always this question, too ... did the hippie movement of the 60's really accomplish anything? Was it really worth it? Or did we slip right back into an updated version of the apathetic and upwardly mobile 50's?

    If you think the answer is "no, it didn't really accomplish anything", then why would it be any different a second time?
     
  16. Floyder

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    I guess if enough people smoked pot eventually the sixties would be recreated.
     
  17. raz5

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    i wish!
     
  18. Carlybee

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    I would never say never but I will say that if the younger gen wants to recreate that era they better get some better music.
     
  19. I recommend using the internet as little as possible. Maybe not, but who cares. Certainly not if we're just going to sit on the internet talking about good times.
     
  20. CalicoSilver

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    The hippy movement in the 60's was not brought about because of a "single" cause, but by a multitude of cultural paradigms shifting simultanelously. A "perfect storm" is probably a good way to explain it. Since the technical definition of a shifting paradigm refers to scientific discplines - and specifically excludes societal changes, I sincerely believe the totality of the movement was a massive cultural awakening stoked by opposition to the war as well as a certain ineptitude on the part of the American government at that point in our history. The "baby boomer's" offspring came of age together and weren't willing to accept the status quo. Fueled by frequent experimentation with psychedelics and hedonism at its finest, the movement became self sustaining and eventually morphed into diverse groups of self-proclaimed "hippies" turning on, tuning in and dropping out. Being a hippy was self-defined, and it could mean as much or as little as one wanted it to mean. Idealistic dreams and visions of utpoia began to diminish once the realities of surviving the 20th century became too obvious to ignore any longer. Bottom line is that our captialistic democracy eventually sucked the hippies back into their system because the price to be paid for living "outside the system" became unbearable for most. Can the hippy movement be revived in this century? Possibly, but it isn't very likely. I'm afraid that we (as an North American society) will have other more urgent priorities to deal with because of the incompetence of the so-called politicians who think they know more than the rest of us.
     

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