Hipster

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  1. autophobe2e

    autophobe2e Senior Member

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    The original meaning of hipster in Jazz slang was a white guy who would "act black" in order to hang out with black musicians, I think the modern equivalent would be something like "wigga"
     
  2. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    i believe those were called yuppies in the raygun era. there was a term hipster in the 40s and 50s. it refered to the sort of person in the 60s we would have called pimp wanna bees. although i think the beatniks, who were sort-of counter culture before hippies, may have welcomed the term. possibly i'm being overly unkind. but the thing is, for me the term hip-ster, implies a certain degree of phonyness and a kind of almost ostentation, which what i would consider real hippies, almost the whole idea, besides being anti-war and pro-civil rights, was to be kind of anti-ostentation.

    of course i'm only seeing with my own eyes, but those are the only eyes i have to see with.
     
  3. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    I don't know if thats the case... I thought it just meant (non-musicians) that were hip to the hot jazz scene. If you were a jazz musician, white or black, you were just a 'cat'

    http://www.queensofvintage.com/the-real-hipsters-a-look-at-1940s-hepcats/


     
  4. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    that second quote, the cab calloway one, yah, that's the good side, but i think over the years since the idea may have drifted. anyway not so much opposites as apples and oranges, between hip-ster and hip-ee. the latter being i still think of as a kind of anti-ostentation cultural alternative. whereas the jazz fan thing, still embraced sparklies, where as the hip-ie thing, you know, to me, was totally alternative to any kind of flash or chrome. you know, mellowness, that was a term, that meant really seeing non-excitement as a positive.
     
  5. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    You must remember, at the time, hot jazz was fairly anti-establishment.
    Good point though, but it took another couple of wars and cultural phenomena like Bruce lee (popularized eastern (Taoist) philosophy which spawned the new age movement) before the 'mellow' hippie would arrive.
     
  6. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    Hipsters= obnoxious 80"s kids living in urban areas working shitty jobs waiting for their retirement which is basically inheriting mom and dads shit while drinking fancy named micro-brew and a penchant for new wave music.
     
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  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Oh shit, Brad, you've got me all figured out.
     
  8. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    dont flatter yourself...if i was describing you id have added in something like mommy pays for my lawyers when i act like a spoiled little hipster douche
     
  9. Gyro Gearloose

    Gyro Gearloose Senior Member

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    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOHtoxjoZVk
     
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  11. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    I'm just glad you no longer see hipsters dawn the empty framed nerd glasses like they used to

    Where I'm from, we call 'em retards.
     
  12. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Do you have any Merch?
     
  13. PunchDrunkKitten

    PunchDrunkKitten borne on the fm waves of a broken heart

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    Neither, i think of the inhabitants of los angeles overall.. Or an underweight lumberjack smoking a cigarette brand i cant pronounce.
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE4zdYtHJG0

    You walk around this town, like it's holy land
    You got good looking friends, you're a sharp dressed man
    Been gettin' big, makin' me look small
    It don't matter to me, cause I'm 10 feet, I'm 10 feet tall
    Yeah it don't matter to me, cause I'm 10 feet, I'm 10 feet tall

    Take a look at your foot does it fit this shoe
    Did you really ever think I gave a damn about you
    You ain't no messiah with your fancy friends
    So get your head out of the clouds
    And get your feet back in the dirt my friend
    Get your head out of the clouds
    And get your feet back in the dirt my friend

    Well you talk about your home town, let me tell you about mine
    You shove your bright lights, big city, back where the sun don't shine
    I hear you talkin', yes I'm lookin' at you
    'Cause back where I come from, man we're laughin' at you
    Yeah back where I come from, man we're laughin' at you

    Take a look at your foot does it fit this shoe
    Did you ever think I gave a damn about you
    You ain't no messiah with your fancy friends
    So get your head out of the clouds
    And get your feet back in the dirt my friend
    Get your head out of the clouds
    And get your feet back in the dirt my friend

    Well wipe that smirk right back from where you came
    As if you knew who I am, as if you knew my name
    Turn around, see your back's against the wall
    Too bad you didn't notice that I'm 10 feet, I'm 10 feet tall
    Yeah it's too bad you didn't notice that I'm 10 feet, I'm 10 feet tall

    Take a look at your foot does it fit this shoe
    Did you really ever think I'd get down about you
    You ain't no messiah with your fancy friends
    So get your head out of the clouds
    And get your feet back in the dirt my friend
    Get your head out of the clouds
    And get your feet back in the dirt my friend
    Get your head out of the clouds
    And get your feet back in the dirt my friend
    I'm 10 feet, I'm 10 feet tall
     
  15. Moonglow181

    Moonglow181 Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    I probably thought of the first photo, as my father mentioned the term once or twice and he was into jazz and spoke of the beatnik scene often.
    Now, that I have joined this forum, I think of the second photo, too...I never did before i came here, though.
     
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