Holiday haters

Then keep your fucking Christmas carols to yourselves.

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Edit: This raises another question for me that I haven`t thought about, and that is the separation of Church and State. I don`t think public money should be used for nativities, and Christmas trees, or incentives for businesses during Christmas shopping, or anything.

Same goes for marriages and families. Christmas should be a private thing, celebrated within churches and homes. I understand it`s Utopian since the State itself is a kind of religious institution, but at the very least it exposes the hypocrisy behind it.

 

if you're referring to my 'scrooge' comment

fair enough.

but there are plenty of people who do attempt to ruin christmas for others

nobody said everybody was like this

however there certainly are people who are.

and those without family

enjoy the holiday with your friends.

if you haven't friends either

may i question more your character

you are bitter

cruel

or maybe you smell

but it's hardly any misfortune on your part.

considering there's nigh on seven billion people in the world

we should all have someone we can enjoy ourselves

just for the sake of enjoying ourselves

with :love:

 

The people who complain about the complainers are not any less bitter. Nor, are people who depend on family ties for human connection any closer to friendship.

Also, try reading our posts.

 

Bingo.

I`m still having a hard time figuring out how people are connecting Christmas with friendship. Christmas is precisely the time when my friends are unavailable to me.

 

There were many threads on this forum celebrating Christmas. I did not go in there and post hateful shit. Not a single one.

I restricted my participation in Christmas threads to the ones in which people felt like me, that shit is just corny.

Now, this thread is a different animal. It`s not looking for like-minded individuals. It`s actually attacking people who feel different from the thread-starter.

And, Christmas-lovers are trying to spin it around like I`m the hater? It`s basically saying, you must love Christmas or you`re such and such a person.

It`s ok to feel that way. I myself have my feelings about what kind of people the Christmas loving mob are. Nevertheless, I did not make a thread personally attacking them.

It`s all good, though. Just a silly holiday... :biggrin:

 

This is my dedication to Christmas lovers. God bless `em, for they shall soon drop off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rNJwQJKPuQ"]Art Ensemble of Chicago - Old Time Religion - YouTube

 

ditto - after all

you quoted but three words from my post.

may i ask

what are the christmas loving mob in your eyes?

being honest (because that is what i am - it's the main of my existence at times it seems)

i am popular and have a close family

maybe i am biased

but i'd not switch what i have with anybody else.

subsequently - also

without sounding rude - although i doubt anyone would care otherwise

it's the holidays and being nice to each other is the exact opposite of right

i couldn't care less how unhappy other people are.

if someone tries to spoil christmas that's fine

if not - fine.

but i do not envy their existence in any way at all.

i will respectfully disagree - people can think what they like of the guy

who is just happy for the majority of his waking life.

happy new year.

 

I`ll go toe to toe with you on the popularity department, bubba. But, were I a celebrity I would certainly be the kind of celebrity who refuses to sign autographs half the time, because I shun groupieshness.

I do not envy you either. Are we done?

 

sure - if you like.

i was only talking

and learning about other people.

you are quite interesting.

and for what it's worth - come midnight

i'll toast you to a happy new year regardless.

 

That sounds wonderful. :sunny:

This tells me everything I need to know about your Christmas spirit. Thank you for your honesty.

 

how late can they serve otherwise?

here, it's illegal for them to serve after 2 a.m. any day of the week. i assume it's because working second shift isn't shitty enough, so those people need to be punished with an inability to have a couple beers after work.

 

damned if i do

damned if i don't.

if people don't want to at least try to be happy with their life

what's the point?

you've twisted and more so isolated my words.

 

It's the same every night, but the deadline seems especially harsh on Saturday because it's the best night to stay out late, if you work standard business hours (M-F, 8-5), and can sleep late the morning before and the morning after. It seems to me that 2:00 to 12:00 is an excessively long period for all businesses to go alcohol-free on a weekend.

In several nearby states, it's popular on Sunday mornings to have a champagne brunch, often with live jazz, especially in coastal cities that bring in a lot of weekend visitors. Usually at a Sunday jazz brunch you can also order a mimosa, a Tequila Sunrise, or a Bloody Mary, which they consider to be traditional breakfast drinks.

The last time I ordered a Tequila Sunrise with breakfast around here (not on a Sunday), the waitress looked astounded and said she would have to check with the manager. It was a nice restaurant, so I thought it wouldn't be a big deal. The manager came by and told me that they never have a bartender on duty before noon, but he would make the drink himself.

He served it himself, and hung around the table for a moment, like maybe he was concerned that I might be crazy or have a serious drinking problem or something. I lied and told him I was originally from New Orleans, which seemed to make him feel better. (Everybody around here "knows" that New Orleans people have no common sense or morals.)

In this state, it's not just a problem with alcohol and nightlife on Sundays and major religious holidays. Almost everything is closed, except some restaurants, grocery stores, and drug stores. Even if you want to go somewhere as noncontroversial as a museum on Sunday, you have to wait until noon, because the powers that be don't want you to have anywhere to go except church.

I do like things like museums and concerts and bookstores; I just don't talk about it much here. Those seem like kind of lame, nerdy subjects for online conversation.

I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now. I'm giving up.

 

nobody really works those hours anymore. allowing service later on saturday night just because they think everybody should be working "standard business hours" is really no different from not allowing service on sunday morning because they think everybody should be at church.

i do have issues with sunday having different rules (later start time, and here the stores stop selling alcohol one hour earlier too). in my opinion, it should be the same every day of the week. actually, i don't think there should be a cutoff time at all. it might have made sense 60 years ago when "standard business hours" were standard, but now that there's really no such thing, the 75% of the population that works at some other time (made up statistic, so don't quote me) should not be punished even more than they already are for having to work awkward hours.

 

My best friend died in 2008. The LAST time I saw her was Christmas 2007. And yeah, I think about her around this time, I get pretty emotional during this season. I still love Christmas, so don't assume that people who enjoy the season have never had anything bad happen to them.

Anyway, the fucking season is done with, so what the hell are we all crying about for now anyway?

 

There is definitely a huge swathe of irony cutting through many of the posts I'm seeing here attacking others who "ruin others' christmas" by not being happy. Talking about love, all the while making scathing, judgemental comments on people who dare to feel differently about the holiday season than them. Especially without knowing the reasons for that. That's because those reasons matter little, or not at all to them. Yet you are being labelled a "hater" for not taking their feelings into account... you couldn't make it up.

It's negativity masquerading as positivity (which is infinitely worse than negativity by itself), a lack of tolerance and acceptance for those who feel differently from themselves. Preaching one thing, yet acting in ways that paint them in no better a light than the people they are attacking, in fact, they are worse because they are being hypocritical.

 

Nobody? Maybe nobody but me and almost everybody I do business with.

There's actually less 3rd shift work around here than there used to be, because most of that was at manufacturing plants that have shut down. There has been a local increase in retail and restaurant jobs that end at 9:00 PM, and a reduction in 2nd shift manufacturing jobs that end at 11:00.

I guess every town is a little different. One nearby city is known for its big hospitals, so you might think they have a lot of 3-shift medical jobs, but they also have a lot of medical specialists, and their offices are only open "standard" business hours. Another big city in this state is all about financial services, and that's strictly M-F, 8-5 except for the computer centers.

All I know for sure is what I see. The bars are packed late on Friday and Saturday, which tells me that a lot of people want to drink then, and they don't need a legal 2:00 cutoff. Other nights are not busy.

The only places I know of that advertise 24-hour partying are New Orleans and Las Vegas. I don't know for sure about Vegas, but I know that New Orleans actually closes the bars every morning for about 2 hours, to clean up and empty the trash. I can live with that.

The strangest of these laws is the one that closes the liquor stores all day Sunday and on every major holiday. You can hoard as much liquor at home as you want, so what are they hoping to accomplish?

I tried to start some bitching about New Years Eve, and nobody would bitch with me.

 

of course i didn't mean literally nobody, but it seems to be pretty rare, at least in my experience. i personally don't know a single person who works those hours. i know a couple who are close, like my mom who usually works from 6-3 m-f and then 7-11 on saturday, and one guy where i intern works something like 8-4 m/w/f and 7-3 t/sat. for the most part, people i know seem to just work random hours that don't really fit into a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd shift system at all though.

and yes, of course bars still have their peak hours on fri/sat nights, but that's no reason to outlaw service during non-peak hours.

 

I throw my own celebrations called Axemas. You come over after Christmas and you bitch and stomp and burn all the stupid stuff you get and you're free to rant about who and what pissed you off ect. 5 years running strong. Even has a burning of Santa clause ceremony.

 

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