Horrific Hiroshima Photos Found!

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by skip, May 6, 2008.

  1. GLENGLEN

    GLENGLEN Banned

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    If They Hadn't Dropped The Bomb........Australia Would Now Be A Japanese State........My Parents And All My Family Would Have Been Slaughtered.........And I Would Most Certainly Not Be Here Today Typing This Post......


    THE BOMB....[​IMG]............I Am Grateful For It Every Living Day....[​IMG]



    Cheers Glen..[​IMG].
     
  2. wbld

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    Allow me to reframe your question.

    If the Japanese came up first with the nuclear bomb that would have made the English, French, Germans, Russians and Americans surrender and stop from their imperialism, that wouldn't sound good to you either, wouldn't it?
     
  3. wbld

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    If you so love and were so grateful for the nuclear bomb, why not drop one down on top of your head? LOL.
     
  4. wbld

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    Right, Japan is now Australia's largest trading partner.

    Perhaps, you can go ahead and tell the Japanese to go home and take their money with them as well. LOL.

    "In the field of economic relations, Japan is Australia's largest trading partner and the third largest source of direct investment in Australia in terms of the cumulative total."

    http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/asia-paci/australia/index.html
     
  5. GLENGLEN

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    Thats The Kind Of Childish Response.......I Would Expect from A 12 Year Old.....Not Somebody My Age....[​IMG]


    NOTE TO YOU.......Must Grow Up...[​IMG]


    Cheers Glen.
     
  6. wbld

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    And if you so much disliked the Japanese, you didn't respond to my suggestion to tell them to go home and take their money and investments home with them.

    Or is your mentality like that of a little child who whines and complains when things don't go your way because of incompetence and laziness.

    In that sense, you need to act your age and grow up.
     
  7. GLENGLEN

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    Are You Really.....50...[​IMG]



    Cheers Glen..[​IMG]
     
  8. wbld

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    Uhm. If that's you're response to my suggestion to you of why not tell the Japanese to go home and take their investments with them, then, it is you who is obviously acting childish or mentally challenged.

    Nice colors by the way.
    You must enjoy re-living your high school life.

    Note to you: Must grow up.
     
  9. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    We did more to destroy our country when we jailed thousands of Japanese Americans and confiscated their property. And we made our selves the boogie man of the world when for financial reasons we dropped a bomb, that murdered thousands of innocents at the time and affected their progeny for who knows how long.

    We supplied Sadaam with his poisons used against the Kurds, and years later we used that as justification for killing more innocent citizens. Ask yourself why? Who is benefitting financially? All wars are connected, by those that profit from them.

    The real threat against all the people of the world are the war merchants.
     
  10. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    The ONLY reason besides the hard work of the people that made Japan and Germany a success post WWII is the fact that they haven't had to spend BILLIONS on arms like the rest of the world did.

    The arms race is the way to keep the majority of the people poor, and the elite rich! Take that out of a National Economy and you PROSPER like never before!

    I'm really surprised no one has figured that out yet. It's called the PEACE DIVIDEND, and the USA was just starting to REAP the dividends (Clinton was paying off the US debt - He was downsizing the Military - Closing bases everywhere). Then of course the Pentagon probably started getting worried about their own jobs getting axed. That's when they decided it was time for WAR to justify a Trillion Pentagon budget so they could all keep their jobs!

    It's all about the MILITARY/INDUSTRIAL complex getting OUR TAX dollars...
     
  11. wbld

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    Again, very true. Thanks for the post, Skip.

    The military industrial complex need wars to justify their existence.

    If wars cannot be found, the military industrial complex in connivance with the government will create one.

    Once again, it's the pawns, who do the fighting and the dying.

    The corporate fat cats, the generals and politicos rake in the mega-profits.
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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  13. Hiptastic

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    What the hell... if you don't like being invaded and enslaved by Imperial Japan in the 1940s, then you should be opposed to freely trading with a Japanese democracy half a century later? Can you explain this logic?

    I notice nobody is addressing the issue - the alternatives to the bomb were even worse.
     
  14. acga5

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    ditto
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Please stay on topic... it's the BOMB.

    To answer the oft repeated question about what would've happened if we hadn't bombed Japan....

    Japan had all but lost the war already. Their troops were defeated just about everywhere, no? So all that was left was for the homeland to surrender. My guess is that politics ruled the day. It no doubt was politically expedient to end the war quickly, as the European theater was done. Someone probably wanted to get re-elected too. (just guessing, I wasn't around then, and I don't feel like looking up more stuff today - sorry).

    So if we had done NOTHING, Japan's economy would've collapsed on its own. The surrender was nothing more than a symbol. So they dropped the bombs on Japan for OTHER reasons.

    I suspect the main one was to SHOW OFF the technology to the world, so no one would dare challenge the US again, esp. Russia.

    After spending so much time, money & resources into building the damn thing (and I do mean damn!), they had to prove it to the world, and if Japan was about to surrender anyway, the window was closing on a viable (or deadly) opportunity!

    So perhaps the decision was made to bomb them BEFORE they could surrender. I bet all we had to do was wait for the reality on the ground to become very apparent to all the Japanese and they would've surrendered sooner or later.

    Plus we now had all those troops from Europe to redeploy to the Pacific. There's no way we could lose the war, and it would've been extremely clear to Japan within a month or two.

    But NO! We wanted to OCCUPY Japan. If we let them surrender, we would have no excuse for an invasion, would we? We wanted the spoils of war. We wanted BASES in Japan to be closer to China and the Soviets.

    Does that make sense?
     
  16. wackyiraqi

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    Come on Stev, you're better than that. Oh wait. No you're not.
     
  17. polecat

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    This is very true. After the end of the War in Europe relations with the Russians became very tense. Patton, one of the Allies top generals, publically stated that we should attack the Russians before they could recover after the peace. It was thought that by demonstrating the bomb, the United States could "peacefully" stare down the USSR. This worked, until the Ruskies stole the technology.

    That's not entirely true. The idea that the Japanese would surrender after being shown overwhelming force is proved false by their actions when that very thing happened. Look at any of the battles in the pacific. The japanese troops never surrendered, ever. No matter how outnumbered and outgunned, they would always fight to the death. There is nothing rational in a mind that would participate in a "Banzai" change in the face of automatic weapons. The Japanese people were completely brainwashed, and they would have fought until the very end.

    Even after the second bomb was dropped the military refused accept surrender, and attempted a coup against the Emperor. Of course, he stated the surrender on radio before they could, or else the war would have continued...

    And another point about the mindset of the Japanese people. Even the survivors of the a-bomb strikes had a hard time believing that they had surrendered. This is documented in John Hersey's book Hiroshima. The scale of the Japanese devotion to their country was staggering.

    And the US did certainly use Japan as a buffer against communism, but I really don't see that as a bad thing. Imagine if the US had stood down and let the Soviets occupy East Asia like they did Eastern Europe. The Soviets represented oppression, and at least the United States let the countries that we liberated actually form their own governments and exercise free will.
     
  18. wbld

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    Excellent post, Hipstatic. Thank you.

    It leaves, silly Aussies like GlenGlen, speechless. :)
     
  19. wbld

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    Ehh, who said World War II ended?

    Think again... [​IMG]


     
  20. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    lol, i think it seems like GlenGlen really doesn't understand what they're talking about.
     

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