How do you guys lose weight?

Well what can I eat to keep my glucose levels stable while being a Vegetarian?
Because I do get low blood sugar sometimes. But have since before being a vegetarian...
And I know that can make me diabetic later in life.

What are good meat free proteins?

I have to say.... Stabby is kinda FREAKING me out...



I really like being a Vegetarian. I'm not fond of meat, and I just feel a guilt and depression when eating/after eating it.
I feel healthier, I do eat more veggies and fruits. Dairy is high in fat... And that's a meat free protein. I need help!
ahhaha

 

Oh wait. Fitzy has answered my question.

 

It's obvious that not pigging out is important but keeping insulin levels low by eating less carbohydrates and exercising more frequently to boost the metabolism will be much more beneficial than simply calorie counting. Protein may have an effect on insulin, but nowhere near as much as carbohydrates. A balanced macronutrient ratio is essential. So is eating less. However limiting calories without addressing the metabolism and insulin levels is setting oneself up for frustration. If the body feels the need to store fat, it will be stored even when a person is limiting their intake.

Eating meat would help greatly. I honestly can't think of any food for vegetarians that doesn't have carbs and doesn't contain massive amounts of omega 6 fatty acid. If anyone has ideas they would be much appreciated.

 

exercise

 

You must feel like me right now stabby, spouting all this 'crazy shit'. You're taking it too far, its outside their comfort range.. You're FREAKING THEM OUT HERE MAN!!! haha

You will never be a 'healthy vegetarian'. If you think you're healthy you're not, you just think you are, its because you're sick and not thinking clearly. Your intellect has overwritten your instinct.

 

Yeah I know. Facts speak for themselves. Most people can not achieve optimal health on vegetarian or vegan diet. It's all propaganda and bias, unscientific studies. The human race has been living on meat for hundreds of thousands of years and only about a quarter of north americans, mostly asians, have the metabolic type for a high carbohydrate diet. Hyperinsulinemia, insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome will follow in the vast majority of us, and it will be a slow but steady decline of health and well-being. However the inability to lose weight will be an early manifestation.

Only a balanced diet appropriate for metabolic type is advisable.

 

Right then. Well I feel bad leaving the thread on a somber note so I will help.

I had forgotten about coconut. The coconut is mostly comprised of saturated fat, which a vegetarian diet is severely deficient in. The coconut has medium chain fatty acids that have all sorts of health benefits including anti-microbial properties (gets converted by the body) and improves thyroid function.

So not only will it naturally boost the metabolism and help the immune system, you will also have a source of saturated fat in your diet which will help greatly in maximizing your macronutrient ratio.

I recommend organic extra virgin coconut oil and unsweetened shredded coconut. Avoid coconut milk because it will contain a lot of sugar.

I don't really want to go into the details of the benefits of coconut here so I urge you to read up on it at a reputable health site like www.***********

 

the best way to lose weight is to go to jail

 

True dat. Coconut oil is dee shit.

 

I will differ here and say that I believe coconut oil is a poison. I would never eat it again, i get the most gigantic NO NO NO NO NO!!! DO NOT PUT THAT INSIDE OF ME!! when i eat coconut oil.

 

Why do you believe that?

 

Ah okay I get it. Its poison because I say so!

Brilliant deduction, professor.

 

I never said it WAS a poison, like its a scientific fact.

I said that my body reacts as if it is a poison, so does my wife, and i have read that it does the same to lots of different people.

Im saying that i do not believe in all the hype around it, that through my own personal use it makes me feel like shit weather I am trying to kill candida or if im healthy. I have used A LOT of coconut oil. Thumbs down from me.

 

Oh okay so you just dont like it. Its not any sort of a scientific or empirical objection. I got ya.

But we both agree that vegetarians must have a substantial source of saturated fat in their diets if they want to be their healthiest of and I see no other option. Pasteurized dairy is crap and raw dairy would still be a poor source, and if eggs are permitted, those arent incredibly good sources either, although healthy in their own right for other reasons.

Coconut oil is a legitimate weight loss trump card too. There's enough clinical evidence to recommend it to anyone trying to lose weight. Vegetarian or otherwise.

 

Being Vegetarian is fine people. Yes cut down on carbs but make sure you eat things that fill you up, get your protien and make sure you subsitute for meat . Eat a lot of beans and legumes . play with grains such as quinoa which is high in protien, brown rice not all carbs are bad just limit your intake and make sure when you do eat carbs that they are whole wheat etc.. Still eat tons of fresh fruits and veggies . I have been a vegetarian for 10years at first I didn't do it properly and the same thing happened to me I ate carbs , i gained weight and found i had no energy. Then I got really into fitness and researched what would make a balanced diet. being a vegetarian is a lifestyle change. you need to make sure you still get your protien iron b12 ect. beans and legumes are great for that . and its easy once you try. Also drink a lot of water, NO juice or pop. Also soy milk is a great sub for mil;k and is fortified with calcium and iron! Healthy fats fill you up and such as nuts and avacados. Just educate yourself on a proper holistic vegetarian diet . there is a lot out there. don't ever think you HAVE to eat meat . if you don't want to , there are other ways, people have been living as healthy vegetarians for a long time!

 

This claim deserves its own thread, but the problem isn't meat. It's the way meat is raised and industrialized. It's the massive amounts of corn, which is laced with ammonium nitrate, that is shoveled into cattle's mouths, digested, and then eventually enters the human body. What's IN the meat isn't healthy. If I could assure that the meat I was getting was the product of grass-fed, antibiotic-free cattle, I would go back to being an omnivore.

PB

 

You can. Make sure its certified organic and youre fine.

You say that you are not an omnivore because you cant get organic beef and yet you feel as if a diet of exclusively inorganic vegetables and grains is healthier than a balanced diet. If you arent buying all of your food organically then you are consuming all sorts of toxic things. Couple that with the nutritional deficiencies and horrendous macronutrient ratio of a diet without animal products and decide if you are really doing yourself a favor.

You also commit an accidental straw man here. You cite cattle as your specific qualm with an omnivore diet while ignoring all sorts of animal products that are less pernicious than beef. Fish, chicken, eggs, whey, etc are all quite safe to eat in moderation regardless of agricultural methods used. I agree with you, I wouldnt eat inorganic beef either. My whey and eggs are organic and my dinner 3 nights a week are wild salmon and 4 nights chicken or turkey which can not possibly bioaccumulate the amount of toxic adulteration that would have any sort of tangible effect on ones health in the amounts that Im consuming. Your decision to snub the omnivore diet entirely is unfounded. You could educate yourself or you could swallow the fallacies vomited prolifically from the vegan and vegetarian liars.

 

Smart vegetarians are the skinniest people I know. I'm not one of them but that will be down to lack of self-control. I wasn't a smart meat-eater, either.

Have you considered a cleanse or detox? Give yourself a fresh start and whilst doing that you can preoccupy yourself by making a plan to stick to once you're finished. Find delicious, healthful recipes and find a health-food store where you'll feel free to choose from lots of options without all the guilt. A detox might be extreme but it'll give you a kick start and confidence to stick with a better lifestyle. Subtle but consistent changes are key. I'm working on it myself.

Stabby, you have a lot of knowledge when it comes to food and diet but you're quite arrogant. There is substantial reading you could likewise be doing yourself. I am sure for every well-researched article you could find supporting an omnivorous diet, we could find one supporting a vegetarian diet. You needn't open you mind but perhaps tone down the hostility and continue offering advice based on what you know of the OPs lifestyle choice, which you have been doing and I'm sure it's appreciated.

For what it's worth to the OP: don't be frightened. A vegetarian and/or vegan diet can be incredibly beneficial for you and the ecosystem. Of course, it can be just as unhealthy as a non vegetarian/vegan diet but you'll live. If you want health, I guess that's why you're here!

 

ok, i'm speaking out again and, i know, stabby is going to shit all over me again for it.
i'm sure stabby is a good person but, that does not alter the fact that he mixes sicence with snake oil.
i'm sure, he is NOT aware that, he is doing it though.


90 paces, this is what you need to do.
first, you state your blood glucose is low. how do you know this? did your gp tell you this, was the result from a blood test they ran?
did your gp refer you to an endocrinologist (a medical doctor, trained in diagnosis and treatment of glander diseases and disorders.)
if your gp did not refer you to one then, DEMAND THEY DO!
in point of fact, your gp should have turned you over to a diagnostician (a medical doctor, trained in the techinques of diagnoses of diseases and disorders.) as, your primary care provider.
if your gp did not do either of these things then, most likely your gp mis-diagnose you.
i very, very, very, strongly doubt you have hypoglycaemia.
to be frank with you; doctors throw out, the hypoglycaemie diagnose all the time to, shut up their clients who whine about not feel well when, in fact, they are healthy.
one hell of a lot of psychiatrists run blood work on their clients then, tell them the bold face lie, that they have hypoglycaemie, just to keep them coming back so, the money keeps coming into their pockets.
psychitatry tends to attract a lot of unethical people; but, i'm off the point here. now, back to your question about diet and weight loss.


once you have seen the endocrologist, they will send you to a registered dietitian.
now, to let stabby start shitting all over me. :svengo:
here in the u.s.a. NEVER, EVER, GO TO ANYONE WHO CALLS THEMSELVES A NUTRITIONALST!
anyone at all, can hang out a shingle and call themselves a nutritionalist.
i'm sure there are some people out there who know what their doing.
one hell of a lot of so call "nutritionalist" are, in reality, dealers of snake oil!
that is slowly starting to change here in the u.s.a. but, it is far, far, far, too dangerous to risk your health to them!
only go to a registered dietitian. they are the only ones' trained, certified and, license in the u.s.a. to deal with diet, ingestion and, nutrition.
you can contact the american dietetic assocation (ada)
i would check out their website too.
they can answer a lot of your questions on the website. i'm sorry i don't know their weblink right off the top of my head.
i'll look it up though and post it for you.


i work for 5 years in a county hospital which, was connect with, the dental, dietetic, medical and, science university. yes, all the buildings were inter-connect into one location.
i went through my residency there as a pastoral counselor and psychologist.
i spent another 12 years dealing with people in all these fields until, my retirement.
i bring this point up to let you know that, i do have quite a bit of expernce in what i am talking about.

be back in a while with that weblink!

 

I'M BACK! :seeya:


here is the link below. :hurray:


www.eatright.org


this should help get you started on your weight loss program.

see you all later on. :leaving: