How do you know God is real?

Yea but see the thing is I don't believe stories that depict humans doing shit no human has been proven to do simply because some book says so.

I can admit I just don't know when I really just don't know.

I don't NEED something to believe when I don't have the answers.

Therefore I have no use for the bible especially when none of the shit in it has been proven or is even believed by anyone who weren't already convinced to believe it before they opened it.

Like I said most people don't enter Christianity with an open mind. Well actually, many do and turn to other religions or atheism. But most people who believe the stories in the bible never questioned them to begin with. They were told by someone else that it was the word of God and they automatically believed it. If the bible didn't exist where would your relationship with God be right now? I put the bible down over a decade ago and my relationship with God gets stronger every day.

I don't need someone else to teach me how to get close to our Creator. I recognize my own connection to the divine and it doesn't require me to believe shit that never happened.

 

It just requires you to disbelieve the truth. Good luck with that.

 

Actually, it's Truth that tells me human beings didn't come from dirt.

 

Interesting.

Please, if you don't mind, perhaps you can tell me where the elements that make up your body come from?

For me, the elements in my body, all come from the food I eat. The food I eat grows and is made up of the "dirt" it's planted in. So I would say that kind of means that I'm made from the "dirt" and that's the Truth.

So yes, it would interesting to hear what you think you were made from?

 

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Did he really just say that?

I'm sorry, I really am laughing my ass off.

He said the elements in his body come from the food he eats.

Seriously, what percentage of the food you eat was grown in the ground?

Even so, how does that explain people who hardly eat fruits and vegetables?

So your skin, brain, heart, liver, stomach, etc etc etc are all made up of peas and carrots?

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

mmmmmm 100%?

 

Oh, Please name one element in the human body that can not be find in the ground? I'm waiting but I'm not holding my breath.

Also even if I was a complete carnivore and only ate, lets say beef, where does that beef come from and what does that cow eat? Grass? And where does that grass come from?

Also what about vegetarians? I would say; Yes, their "skin, brain, heart, liver, stomach, etc etc etc are all made up of peas and carrots".

Laugh all you want, it's good for you but no matter how you look at the food chain the elements that make up your body, originally come from the ground.

Put that in your pipe and smoke it, along with what ever else you were smoking when you thought your post made any kind of sense.

 

Well, there is some logic in J.O. statement that human beings probably are not made of the dirt.

For all I know the gas stove in the kitchen is also made of elements that in fundamental way share the basic features of the elements that comprise our body, however I would find it somewhat hard to believe that human beings were made of the gas stoves.

 

That's because the "gas stove" is also made from the elements of the "dirt".

So where's that logic again?

 

What follows because of that?

Exactly.

 

Ok, I give up, where do you suppose the elements for the making of that gas stove came from? Did the makers of that gas stove just pull them out of a hat?

I'm glad you agree that your argument is illogical.

 

I kow God is real because G.W.B told me so atriot:





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You give up before you even begin to explain what you meant by "That's because the "gas stove" is also made from the elements of the "dirt".

Ok, gas stove is made from the elements that humans and even the dirt is made of. What follows from it?
Are you saying that dirt is made of gas stove? Or that dirt and gas stove are made of humans?
After all, all three share in fundamental way the basic features of the elements that comprise them.
So, what is your logic?

Someone is obviously in habit of making a lot of assumptions

 

Oh and I guess that's what the bible meant when it said God created Adam from the dirt huh? That he would be eating things from the dirt to keep his body alive?

I'm actually learning to respect Christianity which is why I haven't been here in some days and even coming back I'm toning down on the disrespect but it's Christians like you that made me lose respect for it in the first place. You feel the need to twist the bible around to make it fit reality. First it was you walking on water on some diving board or whatever you were talking about. Now it's humans came from dirt because they eat food from the ground. How bout you just do like the intelligent Christians and say the stories in the bible were not meant to be taken literally and call it a day? Guess that would make too much sense for you.

And the same elements in your body that can be found in the ground can be found just about everywhere else, even outside planet Earth. I'll buy we came from outer space before I buy God picked up a bunch of dirt and created a human out of it.

 

If you have been following the discussion J.Q. said that one of the reasons that the Bible can't be true is that it says that man was made of the "dirt", to which I pointed out that man is made of the elements of the "dirt" and in fact people are still made of the elements of the "dirt". To which you said people and gas stoves are made of the same thing, thus, does that mean that people are made of gas stoves? To which I said; no it just means they are both made of the "dirt"? To which you said how do you figure? To which I said; oh show me how a stove is made of anything but "dirt". So now you say that does that mean "dirt" is made of gas stove or dirt and gas stoves are made of humans?

The answer to your question is Yes, all three are made of the same elements. And Yes, in a way "dirt" is made of gas stoves and Humans.

The answer to J.Q. is that there is nothing in the Human body that shows it could not have been made from "dirt" and thus the Bible is not wrong just because it says Humans are made from the "dirt".

I'm glad you have come to realize that you make a lot of assumptions.

 

I said there is some logic in JQ suggestion that humans probably haven't been made of the dirt.
And in fact, dirt is a natural body that is composed of elementary particles which any other matter is also comprised of, but dirt itself is not that elementary particle which it is made of. Ergo even the grass that grows on dirt isn't made of the dirt but of the elements that also make up the dirt.

If you said that everything in universe is comprised of elementary particles that are all sharing the same fundamental characteristics, well that would be an accurate statement.

But to say that one object is created from another just because two objects are composed of the same basic elements is not the same thing as saying two different objects are composed of elements that have same characteristics on fundamental level.

Is it so?

 

Still trying to beat this dead horse to prove you are right.

What is meant is that God used the "dirt", the elements of, to make Humans. The fact that Humans are still made of the elements of the "dirt", would seem to indicate that God very well could have made Humans from "dirt".

Thanks, glad I could help.

No need to twist the Bible to fit reality, it fits reality quite nicely with out any help from me.

See, you have a problem understanding the Bible because you assume the Bible must wrong and you will not allow yourself to believe that God is able to do what the Bible says he can.

I've done some study on why people can't solve simple puzzles.

It's mostly because they believe there is no answer.

Such as walking on water, whereas I don't know how Jesus and Peter did it, I do it every winter and it's called ice, frozen water but you immediately assumed that it can't be done and that I couldn't do it.

Do you see how you will not allow yourself to find simple answers?

Perhaps there are other things that you are assuming can't be done that are as simple as walking on water.

See your disbelief won't even allow you to understand what is being said to you.

The argument is not that "humans came from dirt because they eat food from the ground" but that Humans could be made from the "dirt" by God because they still consist of the elements of the dirt and it has never been otherwise.

Just because these "intelligent Christians" agree with you, does not make you or them correct or intelligent.

See another example of your wanting to believe anything, other than the fact that you could be wrong.

Do you really think that the fact that elements of the "dirt" can be found else where in the universe means that the same elements that can be found in the "dirt" on the planet Earth were not used to create Man?

 

Talk out straining out the gnat only to gulp down the camel.

Yep.

 

I said there is some logic in JQ suggestion that humans probably haven't been made of the dirt.
And in fact, dirt is a natural body that is composed of elementary particles which any other matter is also comprised of, but dirt itself is not that elementary particle which it is made of. Ergo even the grass that grows on dirt isn't made of the dirt but of the elements that also make up the dirt.

If you said that everything in universe is comprised of elementary particles that are all sharing the same fundamental characteristics, well that would be an accurate statement.

But to say that one object is created from another just because two objects are composed of the same basic elements is not the same thing as saying two different objects are composed of elements that have same characteristics on fundamental level.

Is it so?

 

It appears I have answered your post before you even posted it, will wonders never cease?