How high can gasoline go?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gardener, Jun 15, 2009.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Well I can't pay any more so the nigerians will have to go raise beef.
     
  2. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    What sort of car do you drive and how many miles per day?
     
  3. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    I guess they will have to settle for living on $800 dollars a year then, since gardener demands cheap gas. It is his right.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I doubt what I spend on gas is what is determining the wages of Nigerians. I think more likely is the price the large oil companies are willing to pay Nigeria for their resources. Afterall I didn't post the largest profit in world history, Exxon did. And I wasn't even aware the gas I was pumping into my truck came from Nigeria. A country about as corrupt as they come. And for the record I drive 15 miles a day back and forth to work. I use a half gallon a day.

    http://peopleandideas.wordpress.com/2007/04/23/exxon-oil-nigeria-and-corporate-behavior/

    I would think my vehicle usage impacts Canada more than it does Nigeria. And I don't think anyone is starving in Canada because I can't pay 4.00 a gallon.
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    If anyone thinks that by paying higher prices at the pump they will make average Nigerians better off they bettter think again. Exxon isn't going to take a loss or even reduce their current profit margin.
     
  6. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    So, all this bitching and moaning is over your $2 a day gas cost?
    What would you like to spend to get back and forth to work,
    is $1 too much?

    Right now i'm paying $3.10 and using 12-15 gallons a day, that's for 3 vehicles.

    It is what it is, price goes up we use less, price goes down everyone uses more.
     
  7. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    You have any idea what Exxon's profit margin is?

    For 2008 is was just over 10%, "10.73"

    For the Worlds largest publicly trade oil company, i wouldn't call it a absurd amount.
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    That's all I can afford today. I am by no means the average citizen. You'd be amazed at how little I can live on. I impressed that you can pay 45.00 a day just to get to work. Why it takes 3 vehicles to get there is beyond me.
     
  9. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    I drive, my wife drives, my son drives.
     
  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Seems absurb to me.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22949325/
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Are they all driving to productive destinations?
     
  12. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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  13. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    And you all have jobs. Great.

    You are supporting those Nigerians.
     
  14. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am glad that is acceptable to you. Thing is with government subsidisies and tax breaks they are doing far better I am sure than those poor starving Nigerians you accused me of manipulating.
     
  15. Hiptastic

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    We never said you were manipulating them, we just said you don't give a shit how poor they are. Perhaps if they started shooting demonstraters and hating America you would forgive their high oil prices? Don't hear you complaining much about Iranian oil prices.

    Nigerians have no right to sell their oil for a price they see fit, they have no rights to their own resources. The only rights that matter are gardener's rights to cheap gas.

    By the way I want you to landscape my garden. You will be paid $10 for the project, don't tell me how much you charge because I don't care. I have a right to have my landscaping at the price I want.
     
  16. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Thing is I don't have to landscape your project. I have that option. And believe me I wouldn't want to I can imagine what crap you would want planted.

    As far as I know Iranian oil isn't a factor in world events. They've been persona nongrata since Bush turned down their gernerous donation of 20 million gallons after Katrina.


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4218986.stm

    Nigerians should get the highest price they can, but will Exxon let them?

    I don't think it's my little 86 Ranger keeping them down. I would think Exxon with their record profits could afford to grant the world a little breathing space. But guess not. I guess my usage is more important than their profit margin.

    Thing is of that 1/2 gallon I use each day Nigerian oil is way down the list of suppliers. I am not sure why crad and hip keep fixating on them alone. We should be looking at the suffering Candains first.
     
  17. Hiptastic

    Hiptastic Unhedged

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    I'm sorry gardener, I need landscaping. You are just going to have to do it for a price that I decide is OK, not one that suits your profiteering. Its my right.
    Oh I see, Iran is the third largest oil producer in the world but they don't matter because something about the previous president katrina blah blah blah enron.
    But gardener the highest price they can get is a price you consider too high, a price that infringes on your right to cheap gas.
    I don't think one landscaping job will kill you either. Come on, here's 10 bucks. I want a water feature by the way.
    This has been explained to you over and over again - Exxon doesn't control the world's oil. Exxon's profit margin is a tiny percentage of what you are paying at the pump.

    But you don't like that reality. You want to blame the oil companies so you just ignore all inconvenient information. You can in one breath complain to oil companies for the price of oil, when it is countries like Iran that are selling it, and in the next breath praise the ayatollahs for shooting democracy activists.
    Well then ask Aristartle if she doesn't mind her government cutting back on health care and education so that gardener can have cheap gas, even though your gas is already far cheaper than what any canadians pay for it?

    Its his right after all, who are these Canadians to decide what price to sell their resources?
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Nigerians are negotiating with Exxon not me. And Exxon's profit margin is not just a tiny little blip on the oil negotiations map. Exxon and the other huge oil procurers control the price not little folks like me. The one thing little folks like me control is this nation's economy. If we can't afford to get back and forth to work and buy milk and bread along with our fuel expenses, then who does China and the rest of the world have as a consumer market to sell their cheap Christmas ornaments to?

    Go ahead and raise the price. When the little folk can't afford it who will you sell it to? that tiny percentage of profit if no one can buy your goods will be even tinier.
     
  19. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    And Aristartle is a Canadian. What her government does has no effect on the US directly. I wish it did. I wish we had Canadian health care.

    Hey if gasonline prices in the US affect those in Canada even though Canada supplies the highest percentage of raw oil to the States is that my fault? Why don't they keep it at home and keep their own costs down?
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Hip and Crud what's your beef that your stock isn't making enough? I know it's not concern for poor Nigerians or suffering Canadians.
     
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