How many people here refuse to use condoms?

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by Voice of Truth, Jul 1, 2011.

  1. mustlivelife

    mustlivelife Knows nothing!

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    I suppose I've had the advantage of living in the UK where you can find drop-in sexual health clinics everywhere, arrange one with your GP or at a hospital etc. I've had 2 medicals in my life and both times they persuaded my to be tested for chlamydia and others STI's too because they actually got paid bonuses for testing young people. I can understand that maybe in the states and other places you would have to pay for check-ups. Lucky me, I only wish I would've fucked more and used the system instead of being proud and sanctimonious about my body in recent years.
     
  2. mustlivelife

    mustlivelife Knows nothing!

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    Oh and everyone should check out Dr. Leonard Horowitz' awesome film "In Lies We Trust - A history of Bioterrorism" because it contains an interview that clearly explains where the AIDs virus as we know it comes from and how many people are victims to deadly viruses through their supposed vaccinations and how it all happened. It's on youtube.
     
  3. Voice of Truth

    Voice of Truth Member

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    AIDS is not a virus. It is a syndrome.
     
  4. meridianwest

    meridianwest Senior Member

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    i'm not really familiar with your genotype so i don't know. you'll have to consult a geneticist.

    the way this resistance works in preventing infection with HIV in affected people is this: HIV is an RNA based virus. in order for it to survive and multiply in your body it needs to enter the cells. of course, there is a specificity to which cells it can enter. and HIV preferentially enters helper T cells (cells that are important in fighting off infections in the first place). in order for it to get into the cell HIV needs to bind to 2 proteins on the surface of the T cell. these two proteins, BOTH of which HIV needs to bind to in order to get into the cell, are CD4 and a chemokine receptor. it is the mutation in the chemokine receptor that makes certain people resistant to HIV. it needs both these receptors to enter the cell, and in some people the mutation in the chemokine receptor does not accept binding with HIV and thus HIV is unable to enter the cell. that's it.

    i'm not sure if it is possible to verify whether you have that mutation or not. take this subject up with your doctor. however, even if you do have that mutation i would not advise dropping condoms forever thinking you're now immune to HIV. i know this mutation makes people resistant to some strains of HIV, i have not heard that it makes them immune to all strains of it.
     
  5. ladylala

    ladylala Member

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    My boyfriend and I hate condoms. We never use them. Sex is more intimate and natural without them.
     
  6. FireflyInTheDark

    FireflyInTheDark Sell-out with a Heart of Gold

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    IUDs can cause a very painful disease called pelvic inflammatory disease (which I have heard is more common than the Mirena people want you to know) and pills can really screw up your hormones. I just got off of the pill because it was wreaking havoc with my blood sugar. That's a lot scarier than anything you have presented against condom use, and frankly I think your statistics are exaggerated when it comes to their failure rate.
    Also, I'm not sure how your theory would protect people in casual sex situations. You would basically have to be monogamous, because people can lie about diseases and the pill just to get their rocks off and move on. I've seen it happen many a time.
    Honestly this is a pointless argument, because no matter what method you choose, safe sex is unnatural. We were created to run around breeding and spreading disease (which is bacteria and viruses exercising their own right to breed) and it's really just a matter of choosing your poison. You are free to do what you please as long as you are being responsible, but I'm not sure what option you leave for people who DO fuck everything that moves (as is their right).
    It seems to me that what you are doing is perfectly acceptable within YOUR lifestyle, but may not necessarily be so for someone else's, especially when citing your own PERSONAL belief that cock needs to explicitly feel vagina in order for human beings to remain healthy. That's an assumption that you are making for everyone to believe and you have to at least consider that not only do some people not believe it, but it may not necessarily be true. That's not to say that it isn't, or that you should stop believing it, but it is afterall, a belief and not fact. Back it up with evidence and maybe I might believe it, but I still wouldn't shove it down anyone else's throat as FACT.
     
  7. dmorris

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    refusing to use a condom is irresponsible and ignorant. All men would prefer not to use them. But if your having sex would you rather wrap it or deal with going to court and now having to pay child support for a child.

    not only that but I've talked too and heard many stories from girls that have it forced on them. They're pushed and get turned on until they're so horny they give in..that's honestly borderline rape. and even if you don't agree with that it's undeniably a down-right dirtball move and you are garbage for doing it.

    Seriously..I hate condoms with a passion...but to not use one when there is no other form of BC being used is just downright stupidity.

    and the mark of an immature/sleaze mind.
     
  8. mustlivelife

    mustlivelife Knows nothing!

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    I choose not to take that personally. I haven't had any regrets... well, maybe the NSU. The legions of girls (and I mean thousands upon thousands upon millions) that I have bedded don't seem to, either. Maybe that's because I borderline murder them after I borderline rape them? But what do I know? I'm garbage! Ooops, I said I wouldn't take it personally.
     
  9. Cutted

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    I prefer bareback when babies or disease are not issues...
     
  10. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    And, of course, that was also not sexually transmitted.
     
  11. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    Which means in all those millions of cases that you find a sterile partner who has been constantly tested for the last 6 months? And, of course, did not have sex with anyone in that period nor blood transfusions etc. and generally lived in a sterile environment?

    Yes, lots of those out there.
     
  12. Voice of Truth

    Voice of Truth Member

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    It was transmitted sexually and it wasn't the end of the world.

    It's a messed up world because no one bats an eye when a man or woman gets an infection in any other part of their body. But if they get an infection through the use of their genitals, the earth stops spinning.

    It's an extremely mentally handicapped world when there are large populations of society that would rather have lung cancer than gonorrhea.

    And you can test positive HIV in the United States and fly to Australia where you test negative because they use a different testing standard and criteria. Whereas the criteria for any other ailment remains the same regardless of what nation you happen to be in.

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    The thing that amazes me is that our society will question literally everything and anything. But when it comes to anything involving AIDS, the great ignorant masses recoil in fear.

    Any voice seeking information is met with the dogma of "you will die the most horrible death imaginable" And any voice of dissent is all but literally crucified.

    If I had to point to one thing that pushes me to believe that entire AIDS orthodoxy is nothing more than scam to make money, it's the above extremely hostile reaction. Because normal and rational people don't act like that without having been subjected to intense propaganda.
     
  13. jimmyjoe1

    jimmyjoe1 toker Lifetime Supporter

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    I never have sex without a condom..:tongue:
     
  14. TheGhost

    TheGhost Auuhhhhmm ...

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    .... or you can fuck someone HIV positive in the United States, then fly to Australia and spread the love around because anyways you're really healthy so you're not really at risk.

    Don't worry, it's all good.
     
  15. Voice of Truth

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    The point is diseases aren't regional. No other illness can test positive in one area of the world but negative in another. Furthermore in many African nations, the majority of clinics and doctors aren't even bothering to test for the presence of the HIV antibody. They're making a prognosis based solely on symptoms. (Be careful not to visit an African nation and get diarrhea)

    Sad but true.

    The belief that HIV causes a syndrome commonly referred to as AIDS, will remain until the mainstream media say's it doesn't. And that won't happen until someone figures out how to make even more money with AIDS having been proven false.

    Until then, the most brilliant doctors and Nobel prize winning scientists will be mocked, ridiculed and called dissidents. While healthy people will continue to take dangerous proscribed toxic drugs that slowly kill them.
     
  16. Evil DrPorkchop

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    I don't really mind using them
     

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