How to contact a dealer?

I'm talking about the 11th grader who started this thread.

A minor. By his own admission.

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Joe Hippie
What an ego. Why would I be talking about you!

Anyhow you are right. Way too many Narcs have use the nick name Joe Hippie way too many times, since 1967. Joe Hippie is a way over used name by narcs. There was a very famous one in L.A. back in 72. It almost became a Movie back them. Lots of busts and tons of court cases. 99% of them were minor offenses. A few huge busts, though.

And This whole web-site has a NO Minors Rule. Read the rules. And for that very reason. Minors are a whole separate "class" of bust!

To answer your question: Why would the cop do this or that? They always have and they always will.

They get Paid $48,000 a year to throw people in jail. You qualify as "people".

And as the Police always say, "We only catch the stupid ones."

Have fun, out there on your own little planet. This is a public space. Everybody can come here. Nothing is ever erased here. Whatever you say is here forever. Whatever you say can be held against you in a court of law. Do you understand those right?

Yes, you have Freedom of Speech. You are right. You also have the right to type your confession, and to sign it in front of all of these witnesses.

You know, you seriously try to warn your friends, and all they do is spit at you and write smart ass shit back at you. Whatever.

 

I think you're under the false impression that speaking about drugs to a minor is somehow illegal. Even if some police agency were wasting their time trying to bust people for contributing to the delinquency of a minor through online forums, a judge would have to be insane to actually give this kind of case the light of day, considering that no one has any proof of anyone actually doing anything illegal.

Also I think you're under the false impression that there is an age restriction for posting here. I'm fairly certain that there isn't. I see underage members join pretty often and they are always welcomed as openly as anyone else. If it is a rule then I can't find where it's written, so if you could show me I would appreciate it.

 

Don't ask those hood kids who think smoking pot is a game cause they'll just laugh at you. Don't mix yourself with the wrong smokers. There's two kinds: the cool smokers, and then the douchebag "nigga I smoke 3 l's to the face" smokers. Don't associate with those kind!

 

I think that you are under the false impression that drugs are legal, and that one can advise minors in any way that you choose to.

Are you a lawyer?

Any small rural southern judge would give you 5 to 10 years. Don't kid yourself.

It's against the rules HERE because the Owner of the website says so. He has discussed other website operators being sued, closed down, or put in jail.

It's not all about you.

This site has rules.

 

Scorpio do you know how difficult it is to do anything about what is said on the internet? Let's assume it is a cop, he has a set jurisdiction that a poster is likely not in. His department will expect him to produce busts in his town. The only time what you say on the internet means anything is if that cop can convince you to meet them in the real world. For example take online predators, not that is anything like that but hear me out. That predator can say all sorts of perverse things to a minnor, but until he comes to that kids house it means nothing. Even if the cop has logs of everything said. The same thing applies to drugs, you can say I will sell you drugs online, but you must actually do it. Part of that is the fact that you can not prove who is typing what, the other part is a crime is not a crime when it is only talked about. This is why you can find the synthesis for drugs like LSD online, and it's legal although making it is not.

 

Like I said, if this is the truth then I'd appreciate a link to the page listing this rule. I just checked and as far as I can see there is no age restriction.

 

Free speech is totally legal, with really, very few restrictions. That is why you can say anything you want about the synthesis of LSD, or just about anything else.

However, if they can connect you to an action, you can easily be in real-world trouble. If you suggest an action, you can be liable. If you incite an action, you can be liable. If you try to buy drugs from someone, or help someone else buy drugs, you can be liable. If you help a minor (or fake minor) buy drugs, you can be seriously fucked.

They don't get a whole lot of people this way. What they do is collect evidence (for instance, the order to schedule 5 synthetic cannabinoids, which you can read on the DEA website, clearly alludes to forum users who we can assume to be on hipforums, zoklet, shroomery, and bluelight. They do have a heavy presence on these forums, both following conversation and proding it in the directions they want.

They got a bunch of fucking steroid forums and busted all the guys a while back, for fucks sake.... you think they won't here, if they have the chance?

"it can't happen to us" is never a socially helpful thing to say. Especially as there are frequently posters who are fucking obviously cops. Getting someone to sell drugs would endanger the whole forum, this is not local cops, we're talking about the feds, alphabet boys, people who can go after you for inter-state crimes, and who can go after people in many states for said crimes, and use them to attack a major source of drug information (which they desperately want to stifle, again, go read the DEA website)

 

You know a lot about that topic, Roorshack.

 

You're right, I'm a cop, creepin' on your posts and cataloguing your self-reported actions.

At least, there surely IS one here. Who it is doesn't matter.

 

I don't know about that. Everyone on here seems to think cops are all over, but it's really not an effective use of a departments resources to chase people on the internet. Is it possible? I suppose so, but a cop not writing tickets or making arrests will have his ass on the line as it looks like he is not doing his job. The low hanging fruit is easiest to pick. How many arrests can you really produce by sitting on the computer?

 

Again, not local cops.

Big boys. Interstate crimes, felony trafficking, felony possession, huge number of busts at once, etc. Again, from operation webtryp to what happened to overgrow to what happened to whatever they called the roid forum, this would be nothing new. This is a major press release, a big step towards "winning" the war on drugs, a big round of promotions and increased budgets. They've had guys who sit and do this shit all day for well over a decade.

Even local PD's do that sort of thing, actually. Prosecutions for photos on facebook or things on youtube are commonplace now-a-days. As a LEO, it's easy to get things like IP's, or to trace them.

 

True, but that's all vendors. We are end users talking about drugs, not selling them. Big difference

 

hehe I like your sense of humor

 

I'm not saying simply posting here is dangerous, we have free speech. And if they went after everyone who says something on the internet, they'd find a lot of a combination of fiction and pathological lying.

......but this thread is asking for dealers.

This sort of thread engenders PM's about where to get things, and offers to sell things, and all that sort of thing.

I'm a frequent poster in the drug forums, and I see nothing wrong with that. But I think that new users, or users admitting to things like being under-age, asking for "how" to find dealers, is reeeeaaaallllly dangerous, for the forum and to some extent, everybody on it.

Could someone with say, a thousand posts, all of them generally being consistant, and showing some thought and personality, be a cop? Sure they could. But it's a LOT less likely than the typical "HEY GUYS lol I want drugs lol where do i get drugs lol wink nudge wink sell me drugs lol haha lol im underage and do sketchy things you should help me do them lol" user with like ten posts.

The reason being, it's pretty easy to have a room full of guys busting the easy pickin's, (which we don't want this forum to be part of) but it's pretty hard and time consuming to have a room full of guys spending years and hundreds of hours to build a single persona. Of course it could happen for something big, but it's a lot less likely. And frankly, they'd have a hard time, and end up over-exaggerating their druggie-ness, and being a bit too extreemist, because cops don't understand drug users, they couldn't fight a "war" if they could empathize and figure out we're just like them, only a bit more logical.

So like, for an example of a long-time poster who says overly-extreme and provocative things, there's "acid conspiracy" (I forget if there's a space, or what). He's a sketchy motherfucker. He also types short posts without so much thought, but strong pro-drug opinions, because seriously, can you imagine a cop like me, spending like 20 minutes on each post? I'm the only cop who does

*edit*I also consider improper or lacking descriptions of psychedelic headspaces or experiences, to be indicitave of those who are putting on some sort of show. Like people who tentitively say things about how they tripped hard and saw some shit that we all know they didn't, and maybe something cliche that doesn't match what they wrote, like how they died and understand everything now.

Can you tell I'm one paranoid motherfucker?

 

Not really. It's asking for advice on how one might approach a dealer. The dealer in this situation is twice removed from the actual conversation. Literally, talking about talking about selling drugs. I don't think anyone's going to jail for that.

Yes.

 

I know there's some paranoia about OP, I don't particularly mind his question, or him. I was more bothered by latecomers to the thread, those who come in because of the name and basically ask for hookups, even if not directly.

in theory, kenny (was it him? can't remember) is right to be cautious, but OP isn't what I meant. I'm also generally talking more about other threads with a more direct premise.

I'm simply saying, by their own frequent admission (and sometimes evidenced by big busts) cops at all levels of jurisdiction use the internet heavily.

 

I can see why RooR is being "paranoid".. It is weird.. When i first saw the title of this thread it made me say "What???" But if its a genuine question, be yourself. U have his number, use it like u would anyone else.

 

This thread is not a good thread. It is going byebye. Don't join hipforums to ask for illegal things or ask for advice on how to get illegal things. Bad attention for hipforums. Byebye.