How To Get To Heaven When You Die

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  1. XFRODOBAGGINSX

    XFRODOBAGGINSX Banned

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    Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

    He does this for me. He comforts me. Also, I understand that it is not based on feelings but it is also not based on sight either.

    2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

    Salvation is by grace through faith. It is not the result of Baptism, Baptism is the result of Salvation.

    Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
    10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

    Where does it talk about baptism here?

    1Co 1:17 ΒΆ For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. {words: or, speech}

    The focus is not baptism, it is the gospel. It is the gospel that saves. Baptism is an act of obedience.

    1Co 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

    The Holy Spirit does tell God that we belong to Him. We recieve the Holy Spirit when we accept Christ as Savior.
     
  2. sooty_the_kat

    sooty_the_kat Senior Member

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    sssshhhhhhhhhhhh
     
  3. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    See ya there, I'll likely die first, so I'll save you a good spot. And don't pack a sweater, we won't need one.

    Hell Yeah! What the hell is there to do in heaven? It will be a cold day in hell before they drag me through those pearly gates. I'd raise holy hell. Even the thought that I could end up in heaven, scares the hell out of me. hell's bells, that is one hell of a thing to worry about. There is no way in hell. If they try to send me to heaven, I'll tell them to go to hell.
    there, that should make sure.......
     
  4. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    Yet, you disregard these verses:

    "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. - Mark 16:16
    "Having been buried with him in baptism" - Colossians 2:11
    "He saved us by the washing of rebirth (baptism) and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior." - Titus 2:5&6


    Jesus gave these as commands. Without being obedient, you cannot possess salvation!

    "For we are witnesses of those things, and so is the Holy Spirit, whom God has given to those who obey him." - Acts 5:32

    Without obedience, one cannot receive his spirit. The scripture has made that very clear.

    Jesus also states that his Spirit would guide us is in ALL truth. Thus, discernment...

    Washed by baptism. "Ye are washed, ye are sanctified". It does not state, "By faith ye are sanctified".

    Not according to what took place during Pentecost. They already knew that Jesus Christ was their savior.

    Remember, it is not merely by faith, nor merely by works, but BOTH

    Very simply, you must believe in Christ first and foremost. Secondly, you must receive both baptisms. Then, and only then are you saved, according to God's very own word.
     
  5. Mr MiGu

    Mr MiGu King of the Zombies

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    One mans blashpemy is another mans truth
     
  6. sooty_the_kat

    sooty_the_kat Senior Member

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    jesus fucking christ ill see you there buddy :D
     
  7. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    It is going to be one hell of a party. Like hell I'd miss that, I'm on a highway to hell. I just won the SuperBowl, where am i going?

    I'm going to hell!
     
  8. sooty_the_kat

    sooty_the_kat Senior Member

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    hell yeah. i think my sinning enough to guarentee no entry to heaven, thank god for that. cant think of anything worse than spending eternity kissing gods wrinkly old ass.
     
  9. Lodui

    Lodui One Man Orgy

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    Don't forget little boys, priests are doing gods will on earth, and priests molest little boys.

    That means gods a boyfucker.
     
  10. BlackGuardXIII

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    It will be way more fun annoying the hell out of Satan.....I hope he's ready for some major mischief, hell will never be the same........

    Or, I guess I could go to that great big library in the sky, and quietly read 2000 page philosophy tomes with a bunch of bearded old sexually repressed grumps.
     
  11. daisymae

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    I am 100% sure that if I died today, I would be worm food.

    No one can be 100% sure of the existance of heaven, if they could there wouldn't be much point in having faith, would there?

    I thought that was the entire point of being religious, which by the way, I am not....:D
     
  12. XFRODOBAGGINSX

    XFRODOBAGGINSX Banned

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    Although there is faith involved in it, I do know 100% that I am a child of God.

    1Jo 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
    (KJV)
     
  13. daisymae

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    The key words here are "believe". The word "know" is not meant in the academic sense, but the "know in your heart" faith sense.

    You do not 100% "know" anything about what happens after death. No one does.
     
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    I don't know whether or not I'll go to heaven, nor do I care. Right now I'm living life to the fullest. When i die I'll find out. I figured if I haven't killed anyone or hurt the earth then I'll go to heaven if there is one. I think people create their own hell but not me i'm just having good times, good friends, and a good life. -Peace:)
     
  15. XFRODOBAGGINSX

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    It DOES say that you may KNOW that you have eternal life. Who may know? Those who BELIEVE may KNOW
     
  16. daisymae

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    So, according to your logic, children who believe with all their heart that a monster lives in their closet, 100% KNOW that there really is one in there.

    You can have your religion. I personally couldn't care any less what you or anyone else believes. All I am asking is that you keep it in the religion forum, so those of us who don't want any can stay out. Way too much crap goes on in the name of "GOD".
     
  17. Epiphany

    Epiphany Copacetic

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    So then everyone else should keep their posts pertaining to sex, drugs, alcohol, parenting, relationships, etc., in their designated forums as well. According to your statement, in all fairness, everyone who has any comment whatsoever that relates to any area of this forum which has been specifically created for that subject, should not post it in random thoughts. :rolleyes:
     
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    lol
     
  19. XFRODOBAGGINSX

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    Thank you Epiphany :)
     
  20. daisymae

    daisymae Senior Member

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    If those posts will be made in a holier-than-thou, my-way-or-the-highway fashion....yes, please. :)
     
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