How will you get yourself into heaven?

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  1. thedope

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    It is said, why do you call me good, only god is good.
    What ascension process? As above so below, not existing as separate states. No one ascends who has not first descended all of us emanating from the source. There is no degree of difficulty in being as god created us. If you think there are people more deserving of love than others then you seek to upset the preeminence of goodness or god for god decides who is on his right or who is on his left and only god is good. This effort does not keep you from heaven but makes heaven invisible to you. The eye is the lamp of the body, if the eye be sound the whole body will be full of light. But if the light in you darkness, if you believe the truth does battle with ill will, then how great the darkness. The truth sets us free, it does not set us to struggle with our demons.
     
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    Growth is not from low to high but concentric in all directions.
     
  3. jaredfelix

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    Im sorry but I think you have some confusion to the As Above So Below quote... in a way we did emanate from the source but that does not mean all of our souls were at one time imbued with the divine personality. The AASB is in reference to the divine fragment god bestowed in all of us, the only reason we know of god. no i do not think anyone is more deserving of gods love. he loves us all equally.. it is only US, when you say "This effort does not keep you from heaven but makes heaven invisible to you." who can decide to do gods will, be equally love of everyone else as god is infinitely so...
     
  4. jaredfelix

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    In a way I had already previously stated this when I said part of the ascension process is part of our own unique culmination of experiences from lifetime to lifetime...
     
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    Is there a culmination? As we grow concentrically in all directions, we gain stature but there is always more to learn. An adult all the same is not more essential than a child. We live a life that goes nowhere, it's existence it's destination, a journey without distance.
     
  6. jaredfelix

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    you subconsciously learn from previously lives.. it is your higher being that draws you to paradise by developing more divine of a personality... i wouldnt say there is a concentric personality as it evolves and changes... what would be concentric is the fragment god put in all of us, our higher conscious i believe since it is not physical or of mind. so since od is also expanding his consciousness with every human experience he grows as do we
     
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    No need to apologize for confusion mine nor yours. I lend clarity to the quote so as to relieve you of the idea of order of difficulty. Thou shall not covet your neighbors possessions. You want to attain the personality of jesus. This is a personality cult. Gods personality is evident in all persons. You have a god inspired perfectly merciful personality that cannot be taught to you, it is what you are. It only seems obscure because of the verdict that says it must be withheld for one reason or another, a barrier erected against the perception of love. All barriers are the same and are built but of a wisp of breath. Speak the truth and they part as does the mist in the morning sun.
     
  8. jaredfelix

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    through your own personal experience I believe it is.
    you teach yourself to fully utilize who you are right?
     
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    But you may be relatively good. God is good independently of your relativity for judged knowledge. But you must judge both ways.
     
  11. jaredfelix

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    Instead of the word relative. I think we are all potentially Good
     
  12. Anaximenes

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    Potentially referring to being with each other; thus we are relatively potential for all the virtues.
     
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    Meaning the mammalian brain is carried on the back of the lizard brain. The life phenomena grows in complexity and it is that complexity that appears as stature. Two cells the same body are larger, taller than one cell. This does not mean that the two cells are higher than the one but two is a greater complexity than one.
    There are only three rungs on the ladder of incarnation which is itself a conception, child, mother, female creative, and father, male creative principle.
     
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    Who says I must judge to organize my life? All things being held harmless there is no need for scales. I need only tell a rock from a piece of bread and their functions exist in wholeness.
     
  15. Anaximenes

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    I think it's in the Ephesians. It exists by common judgment when people exist for responsible rules. Can I even have a soul if I don't judge: could have been what I was meaning?
     
  16. jaredfelix

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    good point dope, yes but what about reincarnation., past life regression? the process of your soul needing more experience before evolving to see higher realms you must learn enough from where you at, if not in one lifetime then reincarnated into another body until you master the realm your in. this one the physical realm, maybe learning to not being so physically needy? greedy? consumative? that im not sure of
     
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    I don't know specifically what you are referring to.
    By soul meaning sense of spirit? Nothing appears to you without your whole hearted consent. That we seem to lack consent means we haven't decided on the truth because it is true. If we think to decide on truth because it seems a worthy fit then we may change our mind according to the perceived situation. Do not judge by appearances but rather use right judgement.

    All things are lawful but not all things are helpful, helpful being a matter of timing. Our own sorting out in time means nothing, our creations in this moment, everything having and being the same.
     
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    There are no musts, you are here seeking what you want. Make no mistake, metabolism is a fire that consumes itself. We return time and time again to our lives in the manner of thinking what I want is out there. Out there is a garden planted with the seeds of your own conceptions. The kingdom of goodness is within you. Seek first the kingdom of goodness and you add blessing to all things. Enjoyment is the straight and narrow path on which we all converge as everyone's complaints are special unto themselves and lead to crooked and circuitous routes.
     
  19. GreatestIam

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    You cannot speak for God so I took the rest as speculative nonsense.

    If you think your statement above to be true then tell us how it is that scriptures say that God hated Esau even in the womb before he could do either good or evil.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Not while you post garbage like this in reply.

    Regards
    DL
     
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