How Young is Too Young?

Discussion in 'Love and Sex' started by confusedlou2, Dec 11, 2004.

  1. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    i wouldn't say ALL relative, obviously there is still the abundant potential for manipulation and power flexing and all that, but i'd say many legitimate and well intentioned encouters are tainted by what ever is currectly considere a social norm, yes.
     
  2. tiki_god7

    tiki_god7 Member

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    I think its fine as long as both people are 100 percent honest with each other, the girl being at a fragile age and all could easily be confused and hurt and all that so 100 percent open honesty would be required so nothing bad happens to either people......
    I think the only reason anyone thinks its wrong is because of what we've been told about it these days....I mean even books from the 50's, 60's, and 70's talk about dudes getting on younger girls......I mean look at matthew mcanahe's(yeah how the hell is that spelled) part in dazed and confused "I love highschool girls cause I keep getting older and they stay the same age".......or Jack Kearuacs On the Road Dean mariarty (or neal cassidy) talked about getting on young chicks.....that shitty 70's song that goes "whats your name, little girl, whats your name...." there is tons of shit in pop culture from the past about getting on younger girls....so whats the big fucking deal, all the sudden its like next to murder to hook up with a younger girl
     
  3. dangermoose

    dangermoose Is a daddy

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    umm...i aint touching that one with a ten foot pole.
     
  4. raven23

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    Society is so different than it was 100 years ago, thus relationships of all types are different. Being able to engage in certain kinds of relationships, such as older man, teenage girl, are unworkable for practical reasons in this society. To indulge in those feelings is not to sin against god, but it's not a healthy situation when combined with the factors that society has imposed on what it's like to be a certain age. Being 13 has it's iconography, rituals, geshtalt, different than 14, and so on. Hollywood and consumer products have created all these fractured identidys. Many relationships in this society end in tragedy and deep damage, for the same reasons, that we're being sold this idea that we're all so different than one another.
    The 'teenager' was an invention of 1950's Madison Avenue. In post-war America the economy changed so much that a new leisure class emergered, Before that, many children entered the workforce and became adults at 13 or 14. Prior to that, in hunter-gatherer times, and still in many tribal cultures, manhood or womanhood rituals occured around 13.
    An older man being involved with a teenage girl is definitely damaging, but it's just the catalyst for damage that Hollywood, the consumer culture and the media have already inflicted. In a different society it might be the norm.
     
  5. raven23

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    King Tut was just 13 or so wasnt he. Pocahontas was 14.
     
  6. lynsey

    lynsey Banned

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    well you have to look at that maybe economically it worked and it worked for men the girls who were married at 15 or 16 didn't have much choice now did they? so for you to say that it's okay because it was habitual of early america is just as just as saying slavery is a foundation of america therefor it's right-and that is definitley not an okay argument.
     
  7. lynsey

    lynsey Banned

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    oh and this is all coming me and I rarely date men my own age but I don't like attention unless it's invited in fact I despise it it makes me feel angry violated ect even as an adult woman so I am not against age gaps in relationships rather I just think that you have to be careful so no one gets hurt or feels taken advantage of.
     
  8. raven23

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    Neither of us may be 'right' or 'wrong'. Perhaps pre-wwii America was the beginning of corruption. I don't imagine America was ever Utopia for women. I don't imagine women have ever been treated as fairly as they should since probably before Yeshua's time. I only put forth that they way it is now is only the way it's been for 60 or so of the last 1,000,000 years. Perhaps finally after all this time things are 'right'. But then it opens a larger question, like how 'right' can something be when most of the rest of society is 'wrong'
    Perverts, mentally ill, etc, are what we consider people to be if they don't play the game that is our culture.
     
  9. tiki_god7

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    I personally think that if nature is telling a girl she's ready to have sex then she's ready.....why else would they start maturing at the age they do?
     
  10. dangermoose

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    we also wore clothes back then, and consumed the flesh and breast lactation of animals, so if thats what we did in a time of slavery, then obviously having always done it isnt a good excusse for eating meat, drinking milk or wearing clothes.
    slavery is incosequential to the arguement, regardless of whether or not we had slaves at the time, people would have still been getting married/reproducing at that age.
     
  11. ihmurria

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    It also used to be acceptable for 12 and 13 year olds to start popping out babies. I don't know about other chicks, but I sure as hell wasn't ready mentally for children, let alone sex. Hell, not even remotely close for the responsibility of children.

    Personally, I'm strongly against older guys trying to get with younger girls (ie, jailbait girls). I know the age of consent has been lowered here to 14 (aren't there circumstances surrounding it though, something like 14-18 is ok, but not a 14 and a 19 year old? anywho) but I honestly don't think that 14 year olds truly understand the repurcussions of sex, let alone are able to handle marriage and children. Maybe it's our society, whatever, the point is today it is unacceptable for adults to have sex with children, and I'm damn glad it is.
     
  12. Nisha

    Nisha Forlorn.

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    pocahontas was a real girl?
     
  13. Soulless||Chaos

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    Yep. :rolleyes:
     
  14. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    hey

    I'm attracted to 19 and 20 year olds........until they talk
     
  15. Soulless||Chaos

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    What? :confused: What's wrong with that? :rolleyes:
     
  16. missfontella

    missfontella Mama of Da Assassins

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    oh youuuuuuu know
     
  17. Soulless||Chaos

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    Hmmm? Are you saying 19 and 20 years olds are.... :eek:
     
  18. TenCentArcade

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    Remember: It isn't rape; it's surprise sex.
     
  19. Lucifer Sam

    Lucifer Sam Vegetable Man

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    You know what they say... "If there's grass on the field, play ball." :rolleyes:
     
  20. AutumnAuburn

    AutumnAuburn Senior Member

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    It's "minx" :)

    How young is too young? Hard to say... Some people are more mature than others.

    Typically (no, not always, but in many cases), girls are ready to have sex within 1-4 years after they begin menstruation. In my case, I became sexually active at age 12, 3 years after the initial onset of my period (at 9). I was hormonally ready to begin making babies and that instinctive drive was there, and strong.

    Of all the guys I've been with, the ones that really stand out in my head, have been the guys that DIDN'T have sex with me. There were only a handful that didn't take me up on it when I threw myself at them. LOL But, now when I look back at my life, I think it was really cool that they didn't take advantage of me. :)
     

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