Humanity

mr. writer, i thought lsd was something that could actually increase ones intelligence by opening up more neural pathways and making you more aware of your relationship to the world around you. its sure been a great help to many scientists. i think lsd can aid in dispelling societal ignorance and stupidity. lsd can expand you consciousness allowing you to process more information consciously. i'm pretty sure that animals consciousness is much less expanded then ours.

Without EGO, we woundn't need lsd, not intelligence.

so would you advocate decreasing peoples intelligence? would this result in a decrease in global problems?

desos, nice post

 

DESOS!! I'm shocked, that is such a typical Judeao-Christian attitude.

But if you really look at it, the majority of humanities great achievments are still rooted and based in the basic need to eat, sleep, and fuck.
Especially fuck

 

Realty is a seamless entity. There are no superior or inferior forces. No part of reality is more or less real than any other part. The egocentric view that man is a special or superior expression is a vain apprehension of what is so.

 

A vain apprehension? don't you mean interpretation.

 

i'm not saying that natural selections is by any means 'right' or 'moral', but it has been the sole driving force behind survival for a very long time in this reality.

yes, and those humans are still very uncivilized and animalistic. there are achievements based on survival, but there are also achievements based on empathy and unconditional love. so while we still have the capacity to still act animalistic, we also have the capacity to act humanistic -- something that animals don't have to the extent we do.

i actually plan to write a book about natural selection, the state of being human, and our evolution into empathy.

 

Just messin' with ya

No, the whole concept and implementation of civilization is based on the idea of strength in numbers, and the specialization of work, and agriculture, medicine and religion.
All of those have as their main impetus the survival of the species or group.
What achievments based on empathy and unconditional love do not have at their root survival?
I'm talking at the most basic starts of civilized life, and even before group or tribal mentality before spoken and written language, all technological advances had as their start survival. Even gathering as a group.
Please elucidate.

 

I mean most simply that it ain't so, however one conjugal definition of the word apprehension is the ability to understand or the power to grasp the meaning or significance of something.

 

well some would consider a civilization based around competition uncivilized. sure we needed these things in ancient times, but our society today has a chance to become something more than that.

empathy and unconditional love couldn't have arrived here without lesser means to survival, but now that theyre here...

 

There is something fundamentally disjointed in the idea that you can cultivate "unconditional love". If love is unconditional it is beyond what can be taught.

 

uhh...

 

Love is a verb. It requires action.

 

love requires action?

 

I have no idea but for some reason when i am tripping i just view society/humanity as something that is very corrupted and something that has gone wrong and is going wrong

I try and not be negative, but on acid when i am watching lets say a news program, reading newspaper, Walking outside on the streets, All these things just bring upon negativeness

When i am tripping if i even look at a person i can already read everything about them, It's the most craziest shit ever. I'll know what mood they are in, if something is bothering them, If they are a good person or bad person, Literally i can read humans on lsd and it's so hard to explain in words

 

The word love is one of those special verbs that does not (in most cases) require action.
http://www.englishclub.com/grammar/verbs-m_vmwct_1.htm

 

ok.. so I flunked English.

Still a verb.

 

Because man is ignorant he thinks love is a verb. He thinks its something you do. Love is just an overflow of energy, compassion for your brothers and sisters, it needs no action, you are love, then when you interact with people, it becomes a verb, but you are expressing what is already there.

 

well alot of good it does if you experience love and don't express it. knowledge is worthless unless it is used. if you claim unconditional love then go around being harmful to others in your life then it doesn't exactly do anything productive to the effect of unconditional love. knowledge requires an equal expression in action. you could be the wisest being in the universe but if you couldnt express some of that wisdom it would count for nothing.

 

i agree with both sides of the discussion.

1) humans aren't really any better than apes, birds, plants, yeast, or bacteria. in the GRAND scheme of things, it's all "one"
it all needs to be present and it is. it has all been evolving for just as long as we have. we didn't evolve from them. we evolved from common ancestors. and even the common ancestors shouldn't be thought of as inferior, b/c they were suited to their particular environment, and us to ours

2) even though it's a mere coincidence of evolution and natural selection that we have a mind and thoughts, and everything else discussed in the thread...i think it's pretty fuckin cool that it just happened. and i mostly enjoy being human. but it's hard to say, unless you remember being something else.

it would be hard for me to choose. either a hawk, a shark, or maybe budding yeast. they all might have some form of consciousness.

 

Love is already there, its a noun and then a verb. When you fall into love, true love, it isn't because of your actions that you are in love, you actually fall into this all encompassing presence that is LOVE. Then it is not out of the will of you and I, it is out of the will of Love that all actions arise. But your ego can take that away from you, that's why when we dissolve our ego with LSD we feel such a grand sensation of love.

That is why so many relationships end, why so many divorces happen, they are torn between heart and mind. There heart has fell in love, they want to be with their partner and dance. Their mind is saying, because of this and that, because he or she is not fulfilling my desires properly, I should leave them. They are torn, and many people live with regret, and wallow in their lonely sorrow because of this.

 

All expressions of love are maximal. The terror in the eye of an antelope as its' windpipe is choked off by a cheetah is an expression of deepest affection.