Hunting: your opinion.

On my land I can bait all I want you know.. PA< hahah,, Im really close to Game Lands, like back yard close. Dont have to bait anything.. I can sit in my dinning room and shoot from a lazy boy recliner if I want to..

KEY words "if I want to"

 

I should add, I also get extra game tags I dont need only cause I put in raffle in july..
go to country building and get extra. doe tags..
Major major Deer Management I live in..
the kill ratio was low last year and hunters were not packed in last year either.
a few years of overkills Id say in the 90's now deers are out of control..Not hunted at all..

 

do they actually make a compound bow for "probably a 1000 dollars or more"???


i dont think ive seen one that even approaches a thousand dollars..
im sure that a custom competition bow probably would exceed a grand but ive never saw one for even close to that price in any sporting good store..

 

Gotcha. Nat.forest is my back yard (practically) Deer hunting is way too easy
I'm really sorry to report this, but in my part of the woods(western Montana)
Most of the hunters I meet are bloodthirsty fuckheads.
Trophy hunters.
Yeah, they all say they hunt for meat, but you should see them all cleaning out their freezers and throwing most of it out the next year.
Dept. of wildlife recently updated regulations on bear hunting, requiring hunters to take the meat, not just the cape. We also have people poaching grizzly and blackies for their gall bladders. limp dick Asians love that shit.(aphrodisiac, ya' know)
Then we have the "600-1000 yard head shot". If the animal takes off, they are like" oh I missed" when really, they blew the poor things jaw off or something, and it is now doomed to a long slow death from starvation. In conclusion, I'd like to say, I will hunt and trap for meat, but I will do it humanely, within the law, and only out of necessity. I loath to be associated with most hunters.

 

I caught hunters doing dumb stuff like this, one shot off a leg and didnt even bother coming down from his stand, while true another hunter got it, this isnt always the case. knew a girl that hunted like a cave man once tooo.. She'd take pot/hip shots with a pump 30.06 "wtf are you doing?" that was just crazy, After law made hunter training mandatory? I still see much wreckless stuff by hunter that get walmart licence and thinks its a paint ball game.. These are real bullets.. Anyways..
Ppl that come in my back yard dont need to worry about game commision as much as they need to worry about the ones like us that live here. We welcome hunter on opening day of deer and used to have coffee and cakes on a table. My road is like the first one and a main gate is right off my property.. we havent had any trouble here, other then some small poachers that target pheasents and turkeys..
We have many more of those than deers I do believe. But a herd of deers my neighboors dog was barking at a few nights ago was 15/20 to many for me to count in dark..

sorry to here that.. We dont like the trophy shit. I got this home from a freinds family and they had alot of stuffed animals on the walls and I got rid of them and they didnt want them either.. Why they had them stuffed years ago and just trashed em to idk.. But they were very good ppl, taught me alot about fishing and hunting and I was the first to get dibs on place..
Have many ppl we feed with harvested deers none of our game goes to waste. I have a dog too..
My dad has been eating deers for a while and he thinks its steak.. <M'ok hes old and how could he tell if its prep right..mom dont tell him, spagetti sauce is ground deers.

 

I hunt like the terminator.

"The Deer Terminator™"

 

I hate hunting shows. Most of them are filmed in fenced off areas. Kinda like hunting at the zoo.

 

you know skynet sends a Deer robot back in time to stop poachers..

I know you seen it... Dont shoot it... o o.. it shoots back with a lazer, lol < some day Ill bet it will instead of just taking pictures..

 

dont care they wont stop me.

there's no feeling in the world like going full auto 30 rounds a second on those fuzzy salt licking bastards.

grab a beer and watch the appendages fly

 

semi auto is illegal for general hunting in PA> have to to WV for that..

 

I can tolerate hunting if it's for meat, but when taxadermy comes into play i get iffy. My grandparents have a whole load of dead animals in their house and now it kinda puts me off.

But hunting for sport is stupid, there has to be a purpose, like food.

 

well, we do have a handsome old buck that dave shot a few years ago. we hunt for meat, but an animal that beautiful, even if he's not the biggest one you've ever seen, it's not a massive trophy or anything, well, it's just beautiful. a lot of people don't quite understand the gratitude, respect and awe that we feel for these animals even as we're killing them for food. now i don't quite understand trophy hunting, but i suppose it does make sense to get the biggest animal you can for your freezer. it's economical. but those poaching fuckers who just go out, shoot an animal and take only it's head make me want to lobby to poachers on the legally hunted list.

 

i dont agree with hunting animals unless its for food and not sport. and that father-son male bonding is just bullshit. a boy sitting killing virtually is alot better than the real thing, but that isnt exactly a good thing either. ive never had problems myself with violence from playing games with killing, but i do beleive some people can become violent. it all depends on the person. but seeing the real thing, its just alot different.

 

a violent nature is inherrent. if you've got the sickness, playing video games isn't going to make it any better, either. hunting IS a bonding situation, whether you like it or not. it's like taking your child out for firewood, going fishing or playing baseball. it's time together in an activity that generations before have done and benefitted from. it's a useful activity, it's a tradition, and it requires a great deal of time, energy, focus and training. it's not something you can get from playing a video game on a couch.

 

your so full of shit your eyes are turning brown.. you get caught with more than 3 rounds in your weapon in georgia while deer hunting your ass is grass and DNR is the lawnmower..

quit bein a fuckin troll..

 

warning- may be shocking.

I have to agree with the 'maiming' aspect of it....I know the way I was taught to hunt is 'no matter what you're using, if you aren't sure you can do it...and 100% sure at that, with ONE and only one shot, you don't take it...you go back and practice.' However, this is also pure pragmatism...If it's maimed, and gets away, that's less food for me.

Could I buy meat from the store? yeah. I could However, from a purely economical standpoint, hunting is far cheaper for me than buying even the lowest grade meat available. (reasons on this below)

For an example of my own personal hunting ethos (not to speak for anyone else) I'm exceptionally dedicated to 1- the animal having a humane kill, 2- not taking the biggest or the strongest for a trophy, 3- making sure that every part of the animal's used. I grind the bones for fertilizer or for bone meal for my cats, the sinews are used for lashings or crafts, and the brain and hide go into making leather.

I hunt with singleshot rifle, blowpipe (for small game) and spear. (only allowed for coyote and boar in this state, unless it's your land. I don't spearhunt 'yet' for reasons listed below)

that's part of why a week ago, before I came down sick (fast food, I should know better. Got a case of e coli + stomach flu), I was throwing my spear at a target in my backyard roughly the size of a coyote.

No lunch for me until I hit an 'absolute' kill shot 10 times in a row.

on a coyote sized target, that's dropping it directly behind and slightly above the point of the elbow, in an area about 5" circular.

I couldn't take the shot from a premarked line, either, I had an arc of 'at least this far' distance scratched out, and had to hit it from at least 20 feet (pretty respectable distance for close range, and if someone can't stalk to 20'-40', they probably should go back to practice)

took me an hour to get lunch (10 throws in a row that put at least half the blade into the target zone) which says I'm not ready to spear hunt yet. At least not with the boar spear I'm throwing.

it's about knowing the weapon, knowing the shot, and knowing what to take and not to. At 200 feet, I'd have been comfortable taking that shot with a rifle, so yeah, it's a greater challenge, but well worth it to know.

Too much of what's touted as 'hunting' nowdays is closer to a canned hunt...feeders, calls, urine..... I stalk into the range of my weapon, and I don't bait (in most situations). I don't take 'long shots'. I want a guaranteed certainty of dropping the animal. Not only because I don't want it to suffer needlessly, but because sloppy hunting will leave me tracking it down.

I've done rifle hunting (and only one bad shot, and that was my first one. others, I either didn't take, or downed the critter) And I didn't leave it to suffer, I tracked that deer over at least 2 miles of hard scrub, and had to finish it with a knife. Butcher's business, and I'm not proud of it, but I didn't leave it to die, and I used every bit of it. I gave it a half hour's start to get a chance to relax some and look for a place to lay down and sleep, because it was hurting.

I agree with what the bushmen do..if you can't tell by an animal's tracks if it's sick, or old, or lame, then it's back to practice...but then again, I've been referred to as 'that crazy %&#$^$#@' by the crazed rednecks in the area that like to pile up in a truck, run through someone's fields at 3 am with spotlights and think it's sport to shoot a deer with a buffalo rifle (45-70 gov) chop off the head, and leave the rest sitting to rot.

I guess dealing with that attitude all my life where hunting's concerned is what's left me with this attitude of 'do it and do it right, no matter what the tool, or don't do it at all'

Shooting for 'sport'. Not very sporting. as my adopted uncle used to say 'if you want to hunt for sport..make it fair, you take a knife, and face it on it's (the critter's) terms.

Do I enjoy killing? not in the slightest. However my diet is limited, in that I'm limited (for health reasons) to meat, fruit, nuts, and vegetables. I simply don't have all the options vegetarians do, and meat is expensive enough that buying it all at the store would leave me totally broke.

So for me, yes, it's a matter of 'partial' survival. If you're lucky enough to not have an autoimmune reaction to wheat, rye, barley, and you're not allergic to soy and most legumes, it may not be, but for me...it is.

You can call me an exception to the rule, if you like, but I would much rather 'BE' vegetarian. Not all of us are papered enough to have the option, and to me, survival means more than offending someone's sensibilities.

I do what I have to do, and if someone doesn't like it, they can complain and be insulted or disgusted all they want over it, but that doesn't mean it's going to stop me from doing as I need to do to survive.

I've been homeless before, and I've poached. It's been a long time ago, so I can safely admit it. Same ethics, same ethos. I live on meat, with plants supplimenting. I hunted pigeons and other animals (not dogs or cats, however. there was enough other stuff that I didn't need to eat fluffy) with a pellet gun I bought with the last bit of cash I had, and when pellets ran out, I made a net. I baited with bread in that case, because I couldn't spare the calories to trek all over the place.

Until you've been in a position of hunting or starving, hunting seems a pretty godawful activity. However, once you've starved, hunting concientiously definately comes out as the lesser of two evils.

 

Only thing I dont like about hunting PA> no wild boar.
And Ive had a bear in my sites onces,, funny I couldnt bring myself to shoot it.. I felt like it would be a waste to me.. besides Dancing Bears would of been mad at me too..

 

umm..

I thought I made it obvious that I was full of shit?

 

you forget that many on these forums,(those posting in this thread excluded) will take that kinda statement at face value and then everyone will have to deal with a irrational,emotion filled diatribe by some 16 to 20 something animal rights/vegan ..

nobody wants to read that shit.. much less have to attempt to explain you were bein sarcastic to them,..

 

and you'll be mightily mocked by all the other hunters for being too stupid to handle a weapon properly.:cheers2: