I can prove the existance of God. Right now.

Wrong! Matter is always being created and destroyed, we proved that theory with atomic bombs. It could be that this is a badly thought-out statement loosely based on theory that ENERGY doesn't go away but just changes forms. I'm not convinced that this is the case either.



We perceive the universe as matter but matter is just one form of energy. Therefore I do not believe that the singularity was one tiny ball of dense matter. It could be the singularity was just the universe without energy, zero matter! We would perceive this as nothing but there is no such thing as nothing so it would be in fact everything.



Energy is a universal property that exist only under imbalanced conditions. Energy flows until balance is achieved. So at the very point of the big singularity, the universe is at perfect balance. The big bang was not an explosion of matter so much as an explosion of energy flowing in an imbalanced universe. If this is the case then there is a beginning and end to a flow of energy.

 

Atoms are not destroyed in an atom bomb, they are split. You fail.

If I took an apple and cut it in half, is it OMG DESTROY3D???

 

OMG where did you come from!? When ENERGY is released from that matter you end up with LESS matter! What happened to that lost mater? It was converted to energy therefore that particular matter no longer exists.

Also the process of Photosynthesis creates food matter for plants so there I have shown you that Matter can be created and Matter can be destroyed.

When you cut an apple in half, and weigh both sides you have the same weight because no matter was destroyed. If you detonate a plutonium core in an atomic explosion and if was even possible to recover all plutonium particles, it would not weigh as much as before the explosion because that matter was converted to energy.

Does this make any sense to you at all???

Grade 7 science will tell you that ATOMS are the smallest divisible component of matter, divide an atom and it is no longer matter.

 

Seek and ye shall find.



do you expect God to prove his existence to somebody who hates him/doesnt believe?

I truly believe, i love God, i looked for him, and he revealed himself to me. God doesnt reveal himself to the ones full of hatred.


Btw, if you read every single near-death experience(even ones in forums, people like you and me) THEY ARE ALL THE SAME. Its all about being in Gods presence, feeling his unconditional love, personal experiences with dead family members, seeing a white light that has saved them from hell, and many more amazing experiences involving our God, heaven, and the after-life.


Have i ever told you about the time my sister fell off monkey bars, split her head open and was actually SAVED by an angel? Well it happend. I was 11 at the time and i remember it like yesterday.

Well, me, my sister(8 at the time) and my mom were in Louisiana(we knew nothing about the place at the time). Anyways, we went to a park and my sister fell off the monkey bars, splitting her head wide open, bleeding everywhere. My mom starts freaking out, crying and crying for help, but nobody was visible as far as the eye can see. OUT OF NOWHERE, this nice tall man is all of a sudden about 5 feet away from my sister, walking over to her. My mom is still crying and trying to stop the bleeding and asking the man if he could do anything to help. The man, picked us my sister gently and assured my mom and i that she would be just fine. The man grabs my hand and we all start walking, about a mile or so we came up to a hospital. Just before we walked in the door, the man gave my mom my sister. Literally 3 seconds later, my mom opened the door and was going to hold it open for the guy..and he was gone. Me and my mom immediately looked to see where he went, but didnt find him.

 

Yes, this is correct. Just like a goal. When you work hard enough towards your goal, you will eventually achieve it. He is all around, we just have to believe. It's a shame so many miss out on this in life.

 

It's a shame how so many millions have missed out on LIFE because they were destroyed by one of the many genocidal religious war engines!!!

Go ahead and smoke that cigarette, GOD will take you when HE decides it's your time anyway. See how God makes this world a "better" place?

God is a wonderful excuse to do whatever you want to do! All you have to do is acknowledge his existence, which is a pretty obvious prerequisite!! What a wonderful warm fuzzy ego trip of an experience to only and ultimately answer to the God in your head. What a blissful trip, except for those you trample over on your ignorant pathway to eternal selfish happiness. After all it is Gods great plan and he does have the power to fix all your bloody mistakes as long as you repent in the name of sweet Jesus, Son of Mary but not Joseph! Jesus hallucinogenic Christ, what a fucking great deal!!!

 

I agree. Too many wars have been fought over religion. Most of them about how to love God. But the bible says that we can win by beating our sword into plow shares.

Ghandi was a very good example of this.

The more weapons of war we build to defend ourselves, the more likely we will have to defend ourselves.

A look at the bible will show that the lives of all the leaders who fought wars ended up in tragedy.

 

Thats the dumbest shit I've read on these forums..... well in the last 15min at least LSD does not open your eyes to new things. It fucks with your brain and makes you believe new things.

 

I have two very similar angel stories.

My Teacher was swiming when she was 13 with two friends (all non-christian at the time) The were on a floaty thing and were pulled out because of an undertoe. One girl fell off the foaty raft and another jumped in after. This just made thigns worse. Out of nowhere a man puts the two back on the raft, and pulls it to shore. The 3 kids caught their breath (they had been fighting the undertoe) and the man was gone.


Second Story

My little brother. We had just moved to Canada, so he'd be 12 at the time. I was playing in the woods at the back of the farm, when someone begain to chase him. We live about 10KM from a mental instiution, but I don't know if this is were the guy came from. THe man was running after my brother and was gaining ground. So my brother yelled "SAVE ME JESUS" and the man stopped, fell the the ground with his arms over his head screaming in terror. My dad called the cops, they searched our farm, found nothing. 3 days later they found a mental patient who escaped dead on the roof of a local bar. My brother swears it was the man who chased him.

 

I've had some stuff happen in my life that seems uncanny to me, and other people have told me things that have happened to them. Jung, the psychologist, was interested in the phenomenon of "sychronicity", where things seem to go together in such a way that it's hard to believe they're just coincidences. I store these experiences and stories away in the X-files for future reference, and I've gotta admit they influence my beliefs. But I also know from sad experience that no reasonably skeptical person is going to believe that these are anything more than coincidences, if not hallucinations. We all have lots of things happen to us or the people we know over a lifetime, and just by probabilities or the law of averages there are going to be coincidences that seem uncanny and events that we can't explain. But you know what you saw, and you know the people who told you about what they saw. I sure wouldn't want to go out on a limb and say you're wrong.

 

"If there is no God, where did our cosmos come from?
Say it, you don't know."

my reply to that, indeed, what i feel to be the only sensible reply, is that whether there is a god or not, we still don't know and are not real likely ever to do so.

these two questions are NOT so joined at the hip as fanatics would have us to assume. they may even be completely unrealated. or not. that also is beyond honest knowledge.

=^^=
.../\...

 

My friend, you failure to comprehend is due to you
thinking.
God is not a state of mind, or conciousness.
A part of God is, obviously. But God is not acheived
through thinking.
God is trancendental, the ego stands in the way of the Self.

And smokindude and oneofgod, I agree with you, realizing
God takes effort of seeing past the veil of cosmic delusion.

Like a lump of coal and a diamond, the light will bounce off the
coal in a dull manner, but the diamond eats and swallows the
light and displays it brilliantly in all directions.
But, over a very long time of change, the coal becomes the diamond.

 

just what we need, more nonsense.

i think that we should first determine what kind of discussion this is. is it emotional or logical?

i think then we could start discussing properly ... or not

this would probably help distinguish logical/emotional evidence

 

How so my friend?

 

you are making claims that i do not recognize in reality. what cosmic delusion? if the cosmos is a delusion then provide evidence.

 

Would you not say that if, and since you clearly dont
agree I am using if, there was a Soul, or Self, would it not
be deceived of perceiving its own existance by the ego?

Let me ask you, have you ever taken LSD?

If so, were you suddenly made aware of a whole entire
different perception of the amount of energy buzzing through
life?
Have you a concept of the sound Aum?
Or do you know that scientists are getting closer and closer
to realizing that life is vibrational, self sustaining energy?

The inability to perceive reality becuase of the mind
and senses limitations is called Cosmic Delusion.
But the delusion goes further, becuase no science or laws
can honestly say that they know where this energy
comes from.
I believe it is an aspect of God, not God itself, but an
emnation of vibration from the initial source, and the
reason I believe this is that I have felt it.
But not through philosophy or science, or even thought,
but through opening my heart to the divine during meditation.

Im not saying that I can tell you the reason for any of this
But I can say with certainty that we are of vibration, and
this even scientists wont deny.

 

before i go into discussion with you. seeing to what you have written.
will you discuss with me in an emotional or logical way?

 

Logical, if you choose, I dont allow my emotions
to delude my perception, trust me
At least not as often as I would have previously enjoyed :&
Keep in mind, I dont claim to know what God is, but
I chose to call existance an emnation from whatever God is.

 

RELAYER

-i'll keep you to that

well anyway, in reply to your other post:

-i dont understand what you mean with Soul

-i dont understand what ego has to do with this, but its a rather vague word.

-i really have to doubt the relevance of this if LSD is required. the sound Aum?

-oh is that what you mean. well it's all we have so what is the point of assuming that it is a delusion. i think the problem is that "cosmic delusion" then applies to any level of mind/sensory.

-when science cannot explain something then why does it have to be a delusion? sure conservation of energy could be more doubtful because of that, but not knowing where this energy comes from still leaves open the possibility that this energy is actaully not being created. above that , if it is new energy and there was then it is true that it would be a misunderstanding/delusion, it's only theory after all.

-well i'm not sure what you mean with "God" because even if i look that up in the dictionary, everyone seems to have different opinion on it. i dont mind if urs is different from the dictionary, but to talk about it i would need to know the meaning. felt it? the heart? how is that not emotional

-before you provide the reasons for what you have been saying we should probably agree on what you have been saying which as you can see has not happened.

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