I can prove the existance of God. Right now.

Venom_zx

If you dont understand what a soul is, I doubt
that anything I am going to say will make sense.

Ego is not a vague word, ego is the idea in the mind
that your concious existance depends on the gratification
of the senses.
But the ego is not the Self.
The Self is not attached to the body, nor is it to the ego.
The ego has desire, craving, lust, which in turn keeps the
cycle of samsara alive.
Which involves your karmic activity. If you are filled with
desire, obviously physical pleasures do not last, and lamentation
follows closely behind.
But the Self, or the Soul, is not conciousness, or the ego, riddled
with delusion and satisfying the physical and mental senses.
It is spiritual, thats all.

And no, I KNOW that LSD has no relevance to actual spirituality, but
I used it as an example because people who take LSD
claim to have the 'veil' of delusion lifted and can see more clearly
what life is.
Example? Nature comes alive, colors are brighter, the mind can
comprehend deeper thoughts, the senses are intensified, bla bla bla.
I only used it as an example, becuase the veil of cosmic delusion
is much harder to lift and can not be done with chemicals alone.

And I already said that I am not going to provide reasons, in the same
sentence you quoted, because I dont know them.

 

oh i see what you are doing. you don't let your emotions get in the way. instead its spirituality ? but i guess you never said you agreed on discussing in a logical way, you just said that it wouldnt be emotional. my mistake... please proceed...

*sigh*

 

Are you already dropping out?
Have you nothing to say other than your obvious
lack of contribution and dissapointment in my
ability to discuss this you?
And not only that, you claim that I am being
emotional and covering it up with spiritualism?

What part of spiritualism being something that
cant be explained do you not understand?
I mean, besides all of it?

 

you still have not agreed to discuss in a logical way. im not dropping out either. i gave arguements for your points and you just gave a vague text back to me. why i said this was because there did not seem to be a logical discussion from the start

 

All right that was kind of rude of me, Im sorry.
That above post would be an example of emotion.
Forgive me.

I would like to continue the discussion in the manner
we were before, but it's up to you

 

up front.

i will discuss using logic?
will you discuss using logic?

 

Alright well Im not going to nit pick ever detail
of how we are discussing this, that is rediculous.

If you dont want to discuss with me I have no
problem with letting it alone man

 

hah yeah. i do want to discusshah it is ridiculous but it doesnt seem like there is an agreement, so i have to ask

 

No Im sorry, I guess this conversation is over then?

 

hehe . to me yeah

 

I think there's a role for intuition (faith?) in making judgments about reality. There's what Santayana calls "animal faith" that there is a world external to us, there are other people, etc. This is essential to our conversation, since I assume I'm talking to you and not myself. There's wide consensus on this. Trouble comes when we get into areas where there is no consensus. I'm inclined to keep my intuitions on a short leash and go by logic and available evidence--but I can't prove this is the best approach. In the final analysis, it's achoice based on my own experience and intuitions, and I've gotta admit, I could easily be wrong.

 

Ok, peace and love to you friend
It was fun! ~ Namaste

 

Of course, because if you were to come to any other
conclusion, you would be missing the point of experience

 

I posted this in the middle of your exchange, so I'd like to reposition it in case you missed it.

 

Posted by: Relaxxx
Also the process of Photosynthesis creates food matter for plants so there I have shown you that Matter can be created and Matter can be destroyed.

Do you know what Photosynthesis is? It is a cycle of energy, not a consumption. You fail, again. Please stop posting ridiculous things unless you can back it up, your taking up space.

If I burn a piece of paper, is all the matter in the paper destroyed? NO. It turns to a gas (smoke) and all the matter that cannot be turned to a gas (the carbon) turns to ash.

Believing in God is good for you since it gives you peace of mind. I do not fear death because I believe in God and I do what he wants me to do. I am going to assume that you have never had real peace at mind, given your aggressive nature and hateful attitude towards anything that makes you think outside the box you've created in your head.

 

So are you admitting that SOME of the matter is destroyed!!?? Where does the HEAT and LIGHT come from when you burn that paper? Oh right, it's Gods magic, that's what it is!!!!!

I was talking about the cycles of energy, you were talking about matter. Try not to confuse yourself there buddy.


LOL, oh man, you box is so small!!!! I'm embarrassed for you really!!! As well as a bit concerned for your welfare. Is someone taking care of you? Keeping you clean and fed and polishing your tiny little box for you?

 

Does this make you feel better relaxxx?

 

Relayer:

What's this Relayer? It isn't true, but does it give you peace of mind?

 

It's not true eh?
And how do you know?
You are making fun of my belief, just as relaxxx did.
But I said that to him because he was trying to offend.
How is my statement personally offensive to you, or
anyone for that matter?

Please, refrain from this simple minded attempt to be funny.
Becuase it is funny, but not funny haha

 

What's funny is a guy starting a thread claiming he can prove the existence of God right now and 16 pages of defeat later he can't even prove he understands the difference between matter and energy.

Creationist nonsense is always good for a few laughs!!

Keep it coming guys, how many pages of bullshit can we fill up? "Your box is smaller than mine"… "No, your box is smaller than mine"…




That's what you turn to after all your theories and misconceptions are shot to shit. Fill it all full of shit and try to forget you lost every God damned argument you posted!!