i don't believe in God

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by iscreamchocolate, Jul 19, 2004.

  1. POPthree13

    POPthree13 Member

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    Uh huh... I was where you are when I was your age. I think no less of you. But to claim you knwo is to reveal your ignorance. No insult intented... most teenagers feel they know everything! LOL
     
  2. POPthree13

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    PS: Who said I was confused?
     
  3. FreakyJoeMan

    FreakyJoeMan 100% Batshit Insane

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    "No insult intented... most teenagers feel they know everything! LOL"

    As do most adults...
     
  4. Varuna

    Varuna Senior Member

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    There is a Hindu belief that God is, among other things, "Satchitananda." God is Being (sat), Consciousness (chit) and Bliss (ananda). There is a Western belief that God is, among other things, Creativity, Wisdom, and Love.

    These are actually the same belief if you think about it long enough.

    Being, Consciousness, Bliss . . . Creativity, Wisdom, and Love, I am sure we can agree that these exist.

    My point is, even if you don't, won't or can't believe in God, you have to recognize that the attributes, or, the patterns of reality attributed to God, actually do exist. If you can't do this, then you have to believe that you yourself must be absolutely uncreative, absolutely unwise and absolutely unloved, you have to deny your own bliss, your own consciousness, your own being. This may be the most absurd idea ever.

    So, let's return to Being, Consciousness, Bliss . . . Creativity, Wisdom, and Love, I am sure we can agree that these exist.

    Of course, the big picture, how all of this fits together, this is the real mystery. Figure this one out, and put it into words that anyone can understand, and then every year, for the next few millennia, people around the world might celebrate your birthday.

    Peace and Love
     
  5. Silverstar

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    Hi Varuna!


    I'm impressed by your reasoning so allow me to respond :) .
    Everybody has to admit that "being", "consciousness", ... do exist. But my question is: do these concepts (and their manifestations in life) have to be linked to (a/certain) god(s)?
    I'll give an example:
    "Being" can be a pure biological/physiological issue. It's about the body and it's inner structure and this influences the way we behave (to keep the explanation short...). Then people automatically begin to wonder why we're here and maybe what the purpose of "being" is. They begin to philosophize and this is possible without connecting god to the whole matter.
    Not only biology and philosophy but also psychology, neurobiology, ... try to find answers (maybe not always directly) to subjects as "love", "wisdom", etc. And every science will define these concepts slightly different.
    I hope you understand what I'm asking because I find it difficult to talk about this in English and maybe my way of expressing myself isn't that intelligible... :& (I'm working on it!)

    Lots of Love! ;)
     
  6. dna

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    :H Hey,leave her alone! She's right!
    I wish I had remembered that before getting pregnant without a husband at
    her age!!!
    Let her be,after years of living the secular life,I got sick of it!
    I praise God he saved me,amen.
     
  7. dna

    dna Member

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    :) I hope you always stay very strong in God and firm in your faith.
    I got out of these worldly churches,and it's been God,Jesus,Holy Spirit & the
    holy word and me ever since!
    If your heart seeks him,you will find him. Stay strong!
    I am proud of you.
     
  8. dna

    dna Member

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  9. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    I can help turn your faith around. For I, known as Peace at the Hip Forums, am God. Yes, that is correct. You are actually talking to God himself. And to be generous I will grant you three wishes. As long as these wishes could be done by Santa Clause (my little elf :))

    For I am God and I am Love,
    Best Regards My Child.
     
  10. Silverstar

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  11. Megan

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    DNA...Thank you for your support. So many ppl today have no faith. THat is the problem. I know because i had faith in the lord and then he saved me. Faith has to come first. YOu must be willing to believe. Ppl may say i am ignorant but i would rather be known as ignorant than be lost.
     
  12. scamp chuckles

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    I have to agree with you on the reason for not beliveing in a god. I don't belive in a god myself. I think that religion is good to some extent though. A way a society is run is based off of religious ethics. I think that man is a coward (if this makes any sense right here). He dreamed up God as someone to look up to, someone to set rules for humans to live by. He cannot live without his faith. I'd probably be the same way if I was an ordinaty person. I guess what my point is that organized religion forms civilization.
     
  13. ~MorningManiacMusic~

    ~MorningManiacMusic~ Banned

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    She believes in mtv I bet...
     
  14. dna

    dna Member

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    :) You are sooooo welcome! Let me also say that I am very
    honored to know you,and glad to tell my christian friends
    about you! You are very wise,and don't listen to any of the
    government monkey's who have no right to judge christians,
    and For sure not God himself.
    Thats what happened to me too. First you must have faith,
    even a little will help you. faith first,then you see the reality
    of God greater in your life. Then you become an addict!
    "Addicted to Jesus" You just cannot help it,and no church can
    do it for you,it's about faith!
    May I say,you are very intelligent,actually wise is a better word?!
     
  15. dna

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    Hey,Dopesick,you cannot let the lies of this world make you
    conform.it was the ones who twisted the word of God who
    killed all the true christians. Try using the Bible and study
    history at the same time.
    A soul is a terrible thing to waste,especially a young one.
     
  16. dna

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    :sunglasse No MTV for me!
    I cannot tolerate the stuff. It is sooooo nasty.
    The women they show on there make the little boys crack
    up laughing,especially those that jiggle their boobs and rears
    and have all those goofy looks on their faces.
    If you ever want to see little boys laugh really hard,show them
    a bimbo trying to dance. Men laugh at them too,but usually keep
    it between themselves. I have alot of brothers,can you tell?
     
  17. dna

    dna Member

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    salvation and being saved come from God,and The Lord
    Jesus Christ,and I believe it is totally personal.
    I don't want to argue with you,but I would like it if you would
    at least think longer about God,and look into it deeper.
    No one can save you,and you must be called by God I believe.
     
  18. dna

    dna Member

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    :rolleyes: Hey,I know some say youre cute,some say youre not,
    running down the street with a snickers in your sock!
    You know what? It's not my fault that some so called
    christians have taught their children all those pagan
    stories that are false! You have someone named-
    Constantine to thank for that when he mixed paganism
    with christianity.
     
  19. Silverstar

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    Hi dna!
    I wasn't talking about arguing, but discussing (it's a huge difference). And I ask myself why you think I haven't thought (enough) about god... I've never told you (or anybody else here) what my personal vision is. Untill now, I've only been asking questions.
    I must confess I have it very difficult with the idea that there's a god and I also have problems with religions (but I think you already knew that ;)) . That's a conclusion after a lot of thinking, reading, discussing and looking inside me. I'm willing to listen to all of you (I have an open mind) but 'till now, there haven't been good arguments to change my mind... And no, I don't have the intention to persuade you to think the same as me (you're free to think what you like :)!) I only want to tell you my personal opinion.

    Love!
     
  20. iscreamchocolate

    iscreamchocolate Senior Member

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    awww thanks for agreeing with me... I didn;t know this thread was still up or I would have argued with the rest of you... awww darn now I'm waaay behind...
     

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