I fear for the state of our military and the work they do after this...

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  1. Heat

    Heat Smile, it's contagious! :) Lifetime Supporter

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  2. odon

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    There are many unreasonable people in the world.
    Most of this thread has e.gs of being unreasonable.
    I would hope all people are not unreasonable.
     
  3. vigilanteherbalist2

    vigilanteherbalist2 Senior Member

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    you assume that people act rationally,yet they don't. why would it be unreasonable for them to have had a bad/disturbing/annoying encounter with a us service person, and then assume that this is what the military promotes? that is not unreasonable, it is human.
     
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    To think that all within a group are "good" or "bad" is unreasonable.
    To think either is the only thing taught to that group is unreasonable.
    You would have had to grow up in a very insular society to think things are so black and white.
    Ok, if I/you/they had never had an encounter or had any experience with said group of people, then It might not be unreasonable, but how many people are like that?
    If you were to have read all that has been written here, had the opportunity to expand upon what has been written here, with your own experiences, and then used your own common sense and still think that is what the military promotes or trains there people to do, that would be unreasonable.
    I know for a fact that there are people within this thread that will have not changed their mind, and will say exactly the same thing the next time this subject is broached, that is unreasonable.
    What I would say is that it is human nature to ignore the reasonable view and be unreasonable.
     
  5. vigilanteherbalist2

    vigilanteherbalist2 Senior Member

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    when the fuck did i say all of them are "this" or "that"?!
     
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    I wasn't talking about you. I was talking in general terms. You asked a question ( why would it be unreasonable...), I tried to answer it.
     
  7. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I fear for the state of our military and the work they do after this...

    Those two terms are all inclusive.
    Then you went on to state this;

    Again making all inclusive statements.

    All as a reaction to the behavior of ONE CAR FULL of individual's.
    So yes, you did say "all of them are this or that", you did so in the thread title.

    You know Vig one of the great things about America is you are always free to leave. If you hate it as much as you claim, go live elsewhere.
     
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    do you think everyone who doesn't like some aspects (wether real or preconcieved) of their country should go live elsewhere?
     
  9. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    No, of course not. Hate is a strong word, and when I hear it used in regards to the U.S. as Vig does, the thought always enters my mind "It's within your power to leave, why stay in a situation you hate?"

    I do think if a lot of people who espouse such a dissatisfaction and hatred for the U.S. were to actually go live elsewhere, they may then come to better appreciate what is good about America.

    There has to be something good, otherwise how do you explain all the immigrants that come to the U.S. every day. It certainly isn't because they love their country of origin and despise America.

    There are aspects of American political policy and laws I don't like and feel are ludicrous. But those things do not comprise the totality of America, therefore I would never utter such an ignorant statement as
    "no wonder the world hates the US as much as I do."

    Some folks would do well to make sure their brain is engaged before putting their mouth into gear;)
     
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    indeed

    ty for the reply
     
  11. odon

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    We are on chapter 13.
     
  12. Chapter13

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    i hope you brought lube
     
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  14. odon

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    :leaving:
     
  15. deviate

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    lol. we're also free to talk shit about it. dissent = patriotism
     
  16. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    I KNOW!!!!:D
    Ain't America great!:)
     
  17. deviate

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    it's just a spot on the earth. but I like it.
     
  18. vigilanteherbalist2

    vigilanteherbalist2 Senior Member

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    none of the words i used were absolutes. i never said "all of them" are anything.

    once again, pb, no cigar.
    see what happens when you assume...
     
  19. PB_Smith

    PB_Smith Huh? What? Who, me?

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    Sorry dear, but I'm afraid when you used the term "military" and "they" you DID use it with a general, all inclusive connotation. You don't have to actually use the words "all of them" to imply the same meaning.
     
  20. vigilanteherbalist2

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    i fear for the state of our military and the work they do because it could all be ruined by a few dumbasses. there is that better?
     

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