I feel like quiting the guitar.

some of the best guitar players I know aren't technically skilled, they just have a lot of passion for music and they know how to use their ear.

my point was that if you quit you'll never be as good as you want to be. The only way to get better is to keep playing.

 

you don't find that your accoustic guits have a different character to your elec?

you just have some seriously heavy assed strings on your electric guits... or very thin strings on your acc. which is just wrong :mickey:

 

this is why you have problems being a guitar player.. You cant harbor hate on the petty stuff..

/as much as my dont like green day and of course I get a headache listening to American Idiot.. They probably have more hits and actually are better musicians than Motorhead could ever be..
maybe you need to do some research on the band members of Motorhead and see how ghey they are..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouY55Vy8pbU"]YouTube - Phil Campbell - No Love Songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pzuWfU9z2E"]YouTube - Lemmy Kilmister - Buddy Holly Songs

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxGD45SK08o"]YouTube - KARMA TO BURN - 20 (Official)

 

When you learn octaves, that can make the bass/guitar really enjoyable, beacause let's say you know 3 notes to a song, if you know the octaves you can play those 3 notes in about 8 or so different positions. Your 3 notes has become 24 notes.

Learning scales is without a doubt useful but I think its difficult for some people to conceptualize how to integrate a scale into a song by just knowing the scale.

 

accompaniment..

 

Yah, you can play along with songs in different octaves and add 'your notes' to the song rather than simply playing straight from the tab or music sheet. If you play by ear its very possible you have unknowingly already did this to an extent.

Often bands will have riffs with 2 guitarist playing the same exact notes on different parts of guitar (one high pitch, one low pitch) to make the sound more 'full' Metallica comes to mind right away, The bass and guitar can do the same thing as well. Even strictly for the studio a band like Pink Floyd has David Gilmour record the guitar riff twice in the studio in different octaves on some songs for this fuller effect.

These bands usually need an additional backup guitarist live

 

the layered guitar effect messes with new guitar players as they hear the music thinking its one guitar. I still have a bad habit of wanting to play more than Im suppose to. As you mentioned david gilmour. really isnt a lead of his I cant play,. Though while performing I wish to take one more than one guitar / and if you watch Pink Floyd u can see that david plays his part and then sings., Then hes not playing the guitar at all, hes singing focusing on the lyrics while the rest the band backs him up..he then plays the solo alone when there is no singing...

 

I overplay as well, Allowing space in music can be another one of those dynamic qualities that can make a player unique. Steve Vai is really good at balancing space and shredding, Id listen to his music any day over Yngwie Malmsteen who can play 10,000 notes in about 20 seconds

When Vai does shred his attack sounds so much more killer with the space he allows.

 

watching the video where Yngwie Malmsteen loses his ability to play makes me sad. though I suffer from extreme arthritis and carpal tunnel.. Im afraid to have surgery where I cant play at all. Even though I know a number of guitar player that have has carpal tunnel surgery and come back better than ever. im still very worried I may never play again. Even now I have days when I want cut my arm off it hurts so bad..

 

Yeah there's a difference but am talking about quiting as a whole. Even though accoustics do have a nive attractive sound.

I like heavy thick string on my electric for heavy metal.

 

It is nice knowing those three notes but I rather play them on the right key then play them on a higher or lower octave then what they weren't originally written.

 

dylan was and i guess still is a shit guitar player. he's hell for poems, though. the benefit of music is in the music, not the 'i'm so great' bs.

 

You still play them in the right key.

Playing a different octave doesn't change the key, it changes the pitch.

 

Never give up!!! I'm in the same boat as you, I think we just need to take some lessons. I'm kinda at a stand still, I can't teach myself anymore.

 

True but am very anal on playing the correct notes on the right position on the fret board.

 

maybe thats your problem... experimenting and improvisation will help you improve creatively, which will in turn help you improve technically.

 

Well loosen up your boundaries towards the guitar, especially when practicing, that is one way to improve.
I have heard occassionally bands having to rework their songs into different octaves, even transposing to different keys when playing indoor vs. Outdoor / club vs. Arena.

One of the best quotes said about Stevie Ray Vaughn was "He never played the same song once."

 

No not really bcus am speaking about playing some else work in its original written key. But I do play my improvision on different keys though....

 

Believe me I play other styles. I like to play blues, punk, funk and even would like to play guitar for garth brooks!