I HATE nags

Agreed. Normally I wouldnt dream of interrupting a persons relationship, but from when I saw how happy Lucky was hanging out, and how sourly she spoke of her situation in life, I could see that a person in her position needs to be free. Its unhealthy to stay where you are just because its familiar, Trish, and I hope you dont hold this against me that I said that, but the truth is the truth. Or as Lisa Simpson said "And thats the toof!" hahaha "Oops, I left the nitrous tank on...." hahaha

 

Yeah I haven't met the dude myself, but I've heard stories and I've heard him fly off the handle over stupid and petty shit. She loves him and I'm sure he loves her, but he certainly doesn't seem to know how to show it. That's not to say he isn't a good guy, but she deserves to be treated better than she has been treated.

 

How absolutely ridiculous.

 

Yeah, our tax money doesn't go to anything actually useful here.

Mostly just to lazy people who don't want to work, wars, and arresting responsible citizens for drug violations.

 

There has been a disconnect somewhere along the line in lawmaking and society, which has probably been forethought.

 

Without a doubt.

 

Wow there are no roads where you live? We actually do use a lot of tax dollars with out ever really thinking about it. i agree with you though. If not for the subsidities our tax burden would be near non existent.

 

Well, rt. 66 going into the District is so full of potholes you need a 4x4 to get there without destroying your car

But I agree with you. I know there is some worthwhile spending. But there is a lot of wasteful and misdirected spending at the same time, so I like to make bold statements about the stupidity of the government.

 

Excellent!! I'm in full agreement!!

 

Sounds to me if you hang in there just a bit longer you wont have to worry about the financial burden of divorce. He will. The person who files for it has to pay all the legal fees. In the meanwhile get yourself in a rehab girl!!! I mean today!! Who cares if he is ok with it or not. if you dont do something soon you will self destruct. Way too many drugs going on here. These forums are way way short of providing the help you need. In fact it could hinder in some ways.Take care of yourself immediately!

 

I know you didn't mean anything negative by it, and you know you're my boy, but I don't like the term "strung out" and I don't think it seems appropriate here. Even when benzos are used as prescribed and as directed, people become severely addicted. Everyone who uses benzos for a couple of months on a regular basis, even as prescribed, will get to the point where they can't stop cold-turkey. They may have the will-power to stop cold-turkey, but stopping benzos too quickly after becoming addicted can be dangerous, and even fatal. Benzo withdrawals are the only withdrawals, aside from alcohol withdrawals, that can actually kill a person and it's not smart for anyone to stop taking them cold-turkey, after having become addicted. I assume you know that, as you're obviously very knowledgable about drugs/pharms, but I just wanted to clarify some of the facts for some other people, so they know it's not as easy as it seems. It's not like other addictions, in regards to stopping. You gotta be very cautious, which is another reason she's struggling with it so much. She told me a few minutes ago that she definitely wants to stop taking benzos, and that she is just scared because of the process and the dangers. The whole reason she got her last valium script is so she can wean herself off, which she still plans on doing and has plenty left to be able to do so safely.

 

so how is she not strung out?

 

I'm just saying....."strung out" suggests(IMO) that she is only using the drugs to get high and to escape. That's not the case though; she's using to feel normal and to not have withdrawals.. With benzo addiction, you have to stop using them slowly, so as to be safe. She's not taking them as heavily as she used to, which I know for a fact. She hasn't been taking ativan anymore, and is only taking valium; specifically because they are longer lasting and she doesn't have to take as many, as well as the fact that they don't fuck her up quite as much as ativan. All I'm saying is that she is cutting back on her benzo intake, slowly but surely, and is definitely making progress, regardless as to whether or not people notice. Afterall, she's not doing it for anyone else, and is cutting back for personal reasons. She's far from being clean, but definitely closer than she was not so long ago. I know, because I was actually keeping tabs on how many pills she was taking for a while, making a written record, and it is not as much as it used to be. I'm not trying to defend her actions; I'm just saying she is slowly bettering herself.

 

I don't doubt that she uses them for therapeutic reasons, but I also thinks she takes them to catch a buzz. I know who she is, she's a friend.
getting hooked on benzos is easy, but not that easy.

 

I don't know him either, but she seems unhappy.

 

I know she's your friend, and she speaks very highly of you. I consider you a friend too, even though we haven't talked in a while. In actuality, it IS that easy to get hooked on benzos because, even when you take them as directed, the body still gets used to it and, before you know it, you can't function right without them. My mom has been taking xanax for a while now, only at about 1mg twice per day, and she is very addicted. If she doesn't have 1mg of xanax in the morning and 1mg at night, she starts to go through withdrawals, and she has never taken them in excess or to catch a buzz; ONLY as her doctor has directed. I know Trish started taking them for therapeutic reason, AS WELL as to catch a buzz, but she is only taking them now because she feels the physical need to take them. If that wasn't the case, she wouldn't even WANT to stop taking them, and she DOES want to stop taking them. You know I love my benzos, and I know the difference between when people take them for the buzz and when they take them to feel normal; I have taken benzos for both reasons.

 

Eggzakly, and she deserves to be happy, whether she's with Dan, someone else, or nobody else. Nobody can tell her what's right for her. She has to decide for herself, regardless of how I feel or how anyone else feels. When it comes to happiness and love, a person has the right to be selfish, because if one is not happy, then the other is not happy, which is not good for either of them.

 

hey man, you're a friend too. I don't mean to come off as insensitive, and I know she needs them for stability. it's just dangerous when one has an addictive personality, like Trish or you or me. I guess it's presumptuous of me to talk about it when I don't know certain details.

 

It's cool dude. Neither of us know the details better than she does. I'm just basing it on what she's told me online and on the phone. All I know is she hasn't been taking ativan anymore, when she WAS taking ativan AND valium, so she's definitely doing better than she was. She also hasn't been taking as much valium as she was. Any progress is better than no progress, and there is definite progress.....believe me. I know you can tell she's a strong person, and I'm sure everyone else can too, but she's even stronger than you realize and probably stronger than she realizes. She's been through A LOT, and this is just another obstacle she will overcome, in time. Whether it's through rehab or through her own strength, she WILL get past it.

 

And I agree....it's dangerous when someone has the addictive personality that we all three seem to share.