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dude wtf.

There are many people who used to eat windowpain like i eat cereal.

I'm talking insane doses perpetually. Some of the greatest thinkers of our day lived at the millbrooke estate at points in their life and tripped daily for weeks on end (i.e. aldous huxley). It has been scientifically and irrefutably proven that you can trip your whole life without "going crazy". LSD is the most inert substance known to man. No neurotoxicity to speak of at all. Don't get me wrong, you may turn into what society thinks as "crazy"...but crazy is a stupid construct pertinent to conformity. Everyone thinks I'm loopy as fuck, and i probably am to their standards. But fuck them, they live their happy-go-lucky lives in ignorance. Because ignorance IS bliss. So good for them, I'm crazy and i fuckin love it. Leary has taken thousands of doses, many of them ranging in between 3000-10,000 mics. You should read Acid Dreams. All of the sources are government documents. This whole notion of "damage" is your own incorrect view. Your neuronal axons retreat into the body of the neuron and come back into the exact same position as they were hours after the drug is ingested. Nothing is rewired. MDMA rewires your brain LITERALLY, LSD only does metaphorically.

I went through the craziest headfuck ever, and all I needed was a little time.

Everything i just said pertains only to those in a stable frame of mind. I'm not speaking for latent scitzophrenics.

In regards to Popper, take a break man. From what I've read you do alot of glass and alot of X. Quit that shit, they are poisons to your mind. Dont take acid for a few months and give your consciousness time to integrate your experiences into your daily life. For 3 or 4 months i went from taking it weekly to daily to every few days back to weekly and than back to monthly: im currently only taking it several times a year (4-5). But after i can out of that 3 or 4 months span my mind felt like a wet noodle. I couldnt grasp reality, it was horrible. Nothing felt real, life was one giant lucid dream. I also developed the worst case of HPPD, i never thought it was possible it got so bad. But that's not damage, not by a long shot. A brief hiatus and now im fucking back 10 fold, and a much better person for it.

IMO taking lsd is like pressing your brain's reset button. If you keep reformating yourself you get confused, that's all it is. Just take some time off man and you'll feel great. It seems to me like you've gotten all you need from the drug anyway, try getting high on life, as cliche as that sounds.

 

In all honesty i blame his statements more on the pills and the meth than the dose.

 

i think LSD can be used for rewiring the brain too, I mean thats what the whole concept of LSD psychotherapy relied upon
the axons retreat, but then as they come back, when you come across the incorrectly imprinted circuits of the brain, you design a stimulus and environment that will imprint something new

 

ry goody... it's not about the theory of your reality tunnel concept, it's about your lack of judgement and objectivity towards understanding when substance abuse crosses the line into dangerous waters. PP admits he's mind fucked from abusing acid over a short period (not to mention all the other stuff he's got going on).

give him a break from the reality tunnels until he can get his shit together. there is a time to express existential theories and then there is a time to offer a little tough love and support for another persons mental health and well being.

 

i don't believe peter popper is crazy.....i believe he's been through a lot of polarity....good vibes (lsd) & bad vibes--all the other booze and crap he's consumed. i feel he's pulled at the seams.


the problem is that the booze and lower vibe suff helped him feel more 'normal' even though he was still fucked up, its more related to the fucked upness of his peers. his mind could sleep...he could be spiritually lazy by just drinking beer. lsd forces him to live outside the box....and like some of you say (rather cowardly i might add) that the "different" , the eccentric get punished, are alienated--on some level he felt that--so he opted to stop...stagnate...blame the lsd so he doesn't have to go near it....because if he goes near it he'll become eccentric and they may complicate life.

yes some eccentrics suffer ridicule and get locked up...others live like yogis in ashrams....others become authors and celebrities. David Icke talks about theories and blows the covers of organizations that could easily make his life difficult...yet he seems to go by unaffected. i heard him in an interview say its because he never had fear--ne never once thought "will someone want to hurt me because i'm doing this" and nothing has happened. he says that he believes whistle blowers that have bad things happen to them have likely feared it and therefore created it--because thought affects matter.

those of you telling peterpopper to be "normal" forget that normal means "average" and not everybody in this world want to be "average"
not everyone who's eccentric gets locked up....i happen to make a humble living off being eccentric....

peter popper.....follow your inner guru...trust your feelings.......take a break from whatever you need to take a break from. be "normal" for a while if that's what you need. take some time to integrate all these different facets of yourself into one congruent whole....and then, when you are ready to transcend again, you'll pick an enlightened way to do that.

but to try to close you in a box of mundane futility just because its "safe".....how desolate...what a waste of a good time. be free to be your authentic self. be free to be different if that's what you are. just be free and be love and all will be well. above all-go within. your guru is within you. call on that divinity to guide you.

 

Either way you look at it, it's metaphorical. It rewires your brain METAPHORICALLY by creating new thoughts or causing the emergence of latent thoughts and producing different reactions to these thoughts. MDMA causes destruction to the axons and when they grow back they grow back abnormally in different positions (literal rewiring). The point im trying to make is that this isnt damage, and Popper is merely in a funk.

 

thanks to all those who supported me. and thanks to all those who supported me in a differnt way. either way yous are all trying to support me. but i never did 200 pills. iv only done about 80 pills, and a few grams of ice. mushrooms and acid tha later being much harder to count.

the reality tunnel idea is great. somone said to see a psychriatris, heh, yeah what are they gonna do, give me heavy sedatives and tell me im insane, when i dont think i am, maybe im just on a deeper level than those who think i am insane, just cause maybe iv been further or taken more hits than them, and when they reach my spot, they'll be like, whoah, its not insane, but now i realise why people who are soo far out of this persepctive to think that maybe it is insane.

being experienced with acid isnt just hi doses but to be completely experienced and been thro "it all" than a little binge is that very experience. and if you havent gone thro it, and you cast me as insane, and you take lsd yourself, you really have no fucking clue.

nor does a psychotic break make you insane, but merely just brain overload from acid. a relativly normal thing for an acid user, or to frequent acid user. doesnt mean your insane tho.
i dont hear voices, right now i am not depressed. i have stopped taking drugs entirely, even drinking, stopped smoking, and i see alot of things i couldnt normally see before, but that all doesnt make me insane.

the only reason i would need help, is if i was in a deeply frightfull, depressed state of mind. mind you there was a bit of that, but not now.

going to a shrink isnt going to help a tripper thro their thoughts, making them think they are insane. if they can get another trippers advice on some "reality tunnels" or somthing, that can help them thro and help them make some amazing concllusions, than thats alot better than going the shrink way thinking your crazy and letting your mind folow that train of thought for the rest of your life.

its just some expreices are so profound you have to beleive it afterwards, and if it makes things exiting living between fantasies as long as its controllable than thats awsum. it makes life interesting. things are strangely intersting. so thats good.
i dont have time to write to much more, got to go to work.

 

and the only reason i took the acid i did in short close of time, is because i was on the verge of that next "Big discovery". i took pills, and smoked cone after cone, about to make that breaking discovery.
i was in a place to exciting, i was soo hi even when i came down, it was amazing. it is easier to take heaps of acid in a close time frame, cause you dont really actually "come down", or return to "reality", so going back up is easy and just fun. i guess a way it can turn from strictly religious to recreational.
ofcourse now it be strictly "religious". ofcourse i am not religious tho.

 

i too can take acid either recreationally or spiritually.

Depends on my mindset. Right now if I were to take LSD it would be a tremendously difficult experience, FAR from recreational. I'm in an incredibly depressed state of mind, dealing with some things, primarily medical in nature, that i don't see myself being able to come to some rational conclusion to without the aid of LSD. However, it would be a horribly intense and despairing trip. It would throw the problem in my face, forcing me to come to some form of rational conclusion other than "the world sucks, life's not fair, why did this have to happen to me: give me opiates". However, I've been through all that before, this same issue plauged me during my period of heavy use, and there was always a 45 minute period during my peak when i became extremely introspective on the subject. After working through it, i wouldnt think about the afliction at all. Now that my use has settled down, i can't rationalize as well; the beast within me takes over and i feel the need for booze or OC's to wash it all down with. My therapist helps me come to very balanced, non substance related, conclusions to these problems. I;m going to use him as a catylst for change and put the LSD on the shelf until festival season when i know i can enjoy it to it's full potential.

Just for your info Popper, my therapist is a good friend of mine. He toured with the dead in the early 70's. Has taken heaps of acid, shrooms, mescaline, and many other drugs. He's never once called me crazy. He talks to me like i'm a real person and not some quack who he "has" to listen to in order to receive his paycheck. When i spit my philosophies to him he vibes with them, and plays off them. When I spit these very same philosophies all coked up and drunk at a party, people look at me like i have six eyes. Don't rule out therapist's they arn't all as complacent and blinkered as they may seem. To put in bluntly...He's my human blotter hit :-D

 

i wish i could find a therapist like that.

 

Yeah man he's one in a million. I saw 4 or 5 of them before i found him.

THey had my on the cliche "crazy couch" asking me..."Why do you smoke marijuana?...are you hiding from yourself? Is it because you're scared of facing reality?'

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No you yuppy fuck...i like to get high, plain and simple.

If one is going to be a good drug therapist they need to have tried drugs in order to understand the patients on a personal level.

 

yes i think you are sane only to the extent to which other people deem you so. no one is the judge of their own sanity because it is i nthe moments when someone makes a conviction that tends to determine their insanity, not in the moments that they make a doubt. perhaps the surer you are of anything, the more likely you are crazy

 

I'd say the concept of reality tunnel is one of the single most objective concepts in terms of reality you can possibly get. Objectivity doesn't really exist, the notion that your saying I 'lack objectivity' in relation to 'perception of reality'. From my point of view that makes it seem that you are far too gone. Your starting to think the photons your eyes absorb, the chemicals that your body pumps through your brain are giving you a hint of 'objective truth'? Please, that appears to me to be nothing than delusion, the only reason your operating in a functional manner by delusional conception of realities structures is that you subscribe to a set of metaprogrammings that manage to construct a similiar delusional concept of reality in a mass amount of people that will all agree with each other. The simple truth is, reality can be constructed any way whatsoever and it is all completely relevant and true. Yes, some people may piece together metaprogrammings that cause them to construct a reality which no one can figure out how to get into. But you know what, I think thats awesome. I greatly enjoy people who construct their own little world for themselves. Rather than running around saying "See we all believe this is reality, so clearly it is OBJECTIVE reality". Please, get over yourself. The concept of the Reality Tunnel is perhaps the closest a notion of reality has gotten to describing reality in objective terms because it recognizes the simple physiological fact of the matter, it all goes through your brain, it is all subjective, no matter how convincing it is. The only thing that makes one reality OBJECTIVE is the fact you constructed a tunnel out of it and are no longer comparing it to the intracacies of realities constructed by others.

And if you are thinking anything in relation to this. The reason I hold this opinion is because I am only 21, I haven't subscribed to and vested interests into the reality tunnel of any society as it currently stands. All I see is a bunch of people with a plethora of subjective agreements coming at me saying "this is reality, no this is reality, no this is reality". Well I'm sorry, but have you ever actually went and talked 1 on 1 with different artists, people of different spiritual constructs, people of different means of living life to notice how incredibly different peoples perception of the earth can be? It seems absolutely absurd to me your presenting 'objective reality' in the manner you are.

 

well you know. on the weekend we did some pills. and strange enough as it was, my friend had what you might call a mild psychotic thingy. or somthing. we took the pills, and he was allready drunk and stoned, they started coming on while i was driving alone with him at midnight waiting for my other friends. anyway his whole character had completly changed, he made me drive into this far away dark place for what was seem like no reason, we got their, and i had gotten overwhelming scared , even tho he is one of my best friends, i could see him in the dark with a knife trying to stab me, ofcourse he wasnt i had just imagine, i had to get out of their, so we drove and he kept being overrly persistent and completly out of character, saying stop the car, and all this stuff for no reason. he kept saying things about some ancient prince and king, and that he was a prince, and a wolf, and i said somtimes fantasy and reality get mixed up, and he said NO! this is reality. not to mention alot of other shit, now normally we all talk alot of fucking insane shit, but it was just quite scary.
ofcourse i was scared myself for thinking my best friend was trying to cut me up.
it wasnt just me being paranoid either, everyone said he made them scared.

i had done pills myself, and havent been drinking much. but deffinatly if thats what these drugs lead to, and do, it was just a really interesting learning experience.
i had been like this myself but much much worse a few weeks prior.
tha pills where good.

 

some wise advice from a perspective that is definitely truthful. PP, your experiencing the start of the break period where by a 1,001 thoughts, perspectives, truths, realities, concepts and theories are streaming through ur head - colliding, interacting, morphing and defusing - give it some time and i think you'll see things will clear up.

..lol


i think you might of missed the point - the point been a dot. like a "." - where by it was there, but you missed it. better luck next time though bud

 

nah. rygoody given some great advice there. its not all just basic this, basic remedy that. theres more to it. a system of crazy beleifs and meanings could create a life of eternal happyness, or not. but i guess ill never forget what royl duke had to say "

We are all wired into a survival trip now. No more of the speed that fueled that 60's. That was the fatal flaw in Tim Leary's trip. He crashed around America selling "consciousness expansion" without ever giving a thought to the grim meat-hook realities that were lying in wait for all the people who took him seriously... All those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy Peace and Understanding for three bucks a hit. But their loss and failure is ours too. What Leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole life-style that he helped create... a generation of permanent cripples, failed seekers, who never understood the essential old-mystic fallacy of the Acid Culture: the desperate assumption that somebody... or at least some force - is tending the light at the end of the tunnel. ""

-fear n' loathing

 

believe what you want, see what you want, eat what you want, know what you want, do what you want - its all up to you.

..i guess

 

you know i just noticed, your names peter poper and mines placid pete. we're practically related.

 

that's life brother. we each have our own paths to follow. what's wrong for you is right for guy sitting next to you.

If its not up to me, then who is it up to?

 

but a child that is afraid of the dark, is the adult who becomes afraid of the light.