i only trust hippies to help me answer this

Two mutually exclusive means of failing love: (1) trust a hippie and he will explain that you can fair the meat of the understanding for the love mankind: then the fellowman is learned in Unity for the presence of appearance of the spiritual Nature. Nature itself will deceive you for the scientific destruction of mankind. (2) trust the humanity of working productively: then the productive man will decisively produce the false values of survival (like of the fittest): then Nature is learned for the use of Facts, facts of the world and Godly faith in ecstasy. Man will be the falsehood you will learn too little about. You will deceive yourself about Man. Is there another way to avoid the folly of deception: No; only in Heaven. But what do I know?

Kris

 

Happiness Is Love

 

I don't know if there ever can be a right or wrong here, it comes down to personal priorities and personality. Personally I subscribe to the "immature" philosophy, yet somehow i still manage to get my basic needs taken care of. I think i have had more fun that way and made some very good memories by skipping out on things that other people deemed "important" like school pep rallies and assemblies back in my high school days. I ditched the perfect amount of class to not get into trouble ever. Things like that are best practiced in moderation.

 

You seem to be making some generalisations in your definition of how maturity and immaturity find happiness. Why the need to separate the two? They are not entirely separate facets of your personality, and they never will be. The consequences that maturity respects (and avoids, by taking appropriate action) can only be found through immaturity.

 

Be careful not to confuse immaturity with youthful maturity. In youthful maturity, one can enjoy some of the more instant gratifications while still using self discipline to moderate how many instant gratifications one relies on in life. Also, one who is mature yet youthful can appreciate these instant gratifications but realize it is not the only way to achieve real happiness.

I hope that helps to answer the question that you are asking.

 

trust in yourself

 

For me, the greatest feeling in life is accomplishment and progression (in anything and everything you do), and accomplishment and progression take time. However the road to accomplishment is long and difficult and I also need to do things that are instantly gratifying. I feel like my life would be empty without long-term things to work towards, but would also be equally empty without simple pleasures.

There's a theme in hippy philosophy to love yourself and be content with the person you are in the present. I can only do this if I'm constantly evolving. And if I know myself to be evolving, I can take greater pleasure in short-sighted pleasures.

 

both of them

whichever you want

which fire is real "heat"?

remember that you have an organ called a Mind, and this organ excretes something called Thoughts, and these Thoughts are not to be confused with reality, but rather recognized as simply another byproduct of being a sentient entity. Just as you cut your hair, bite your nails, and wipe your ass, so too must you quiet your mind, or it will behave in ways like this; confusion is nothing but the dandruff in your brain.

 

Well said. It's a matter of balance. You should not plan for the future if it involves suffering now, and you should not take great joy now if it means suffering in the future. Instead, seek a balance, where you can enjoy now, but you set yourself up for a good future

-Matt

 

I agree, do not plan the future. The future is unwritten, write it. Only you can decide what is good for yourself and also what the right path for you to follow is. But things happen, mess ups do happen, and its a part of life you'll accept. The hard part is, in time learning from these mess ups. When I was younger, I would never think twice when I "messed up". Now, I think rather deeply about it, and see where I went wrong, or maybe how others see it. Maybe learn from it and apply it to future situations.

 

I can't help lying, but you keep amazing me with the 'Words.' I use.

 

As an Old Hippie, I think I can give you a good answer.

First, you shouldn't be doing psychoactive drugs until your brain is physically mature and your "self" is developed, probably around 20 to 22. Just not a good idea.

"Looking ahead" and "living in the moment" are not mutually exclusive. A balance of the two will lead you to a long happy life. Responsibility and planning alone will get you a long boring life, while only living for now can be fun, it will cut your life short and bring some bad consequences.

So far, I've had an excellent life balancing the two.

 

Does this exist though with regard to your talents achieved of recognition to your own satisfaction? Without conscience for how others may perceive you, are there threats at the balance and for ill-recognition to exist. In history there were the successful men who died just right for the HAPPY life. It is better to seek freedom, and the improved abstract suicide.

 

I'm not sure that I understand exactly what you are saying here, but I'll give it a try.

I've always lived for my own satisfaction and have been the sole judge of my own success. I have no need to compare myself to others, and no need for recognition. I balance responsibility and enjoyment because it makes sense. ie, I cannot enjoy life if I'm broke, in jail or alone. This means you need a good job, you need to stay within the boundaries of social mores (or at least appear to), and maintain good social relationships.

My wife died about 10 years ago, my children are grown and on their own, and I just retired. I now have very few responsibilities, but it seems that some of those responsibilities were actually enjoyable.

The trap that I've seen so many people fall into is seeking approval from others and trying to live up to their expectations, which never brings one happiness.

 

Fine,
though the serious world has changed to compose the lack of transcendental confidence in not as much approval of others which is Serious and ethically pre-destined, but from the transcendental desire to be part of the holistic expression to improve the basic work ethic as well as marrying ethic (the essentialized moralizing of Adversity; we scientifically are after-all taught to understand objectively changing systems for failed responsibility).

 

Wisdom

ZW

 

Wisdom? WIsdom of ethics or just the way the experience of anyone's life is?

 

There is a big gap between college and today. But, as I remember, Existentialism is a loner's philosophy and my comfort is my own responsibility. However, in this Capitalist Empire, the individual has no value. It's a herd mentality that drives the markets at the direction of advertising agents and political pawns. Comfort and satisfaction don't sell widgets.

The system is designed to create false need and false responsibility in order to fuel a system that benefits only a few far beyond their worth. It failed because Capitalism needs consumers and by 2008 they sucked every dime out of the middle class and poor, and now they have no customers. (slightly exaggerated for affect)

 

Shades of 1968. But Camus died in 1960.

 

That's absurd.