I refuse

And only one of them matters.

 

And the latter is the real effect.

 

Weird we both started our sentence with a conjunction. And said the same thing.

 

No one's denying that. Your point?

 

Social trends and statistics are generalizations. If you want specifics, you'll have to wait for the 24 volume library.

I'm still waiting for your evidence to prove me wrong.

If you're only interested in insulting me, I'm moving on. I thought I might find some adult conversation here. Guess not.

 

Like I JUST SAID MAN!
If you fucking care enough to post about it, listen to him speak.
You'll find that he doesn't believe the word thug in the general sense and has his own definition.

sorry for getting pissed off.
Sorry.

 

Get the fuck out of my thread with this shit.

You've had 4 posts for way too long. I think you're a witch. Burn it, thou shall not suffer a witch to live!

 

Does there have to be a point?

Just saying the vibe you put off can sometimes be more strongly perceived than a status, or even the way you look. You can have a stronger effect on a person and get treated accordingly. Although this is not trusting anyone because everything is subjective. In many cases the subjectivity is rooted in how we have been cultured that have sunken deep into many people.

Sometimes I find myself losing a feeling of my identity and this fades on others as well, and the only thing I have to go by to judge would be any interaction to come.

I also pick up on people's subjectivity towards me and I test if they are open minded. Hard to test on females in person for me though. That test is rigged.

 

It is against guidelines to discuss the banned.

This is getting mighty close to a personal attack.

This is uncalled for. If all you have to do is provoke people you can move along. If you are not going to respect people then there is no place for you here.

 

Understood. I'll ease off.

As for the last one though, it's a pretty drastic topic change from what the thread is about.

And the witch comment I thought was obviously facetious.

 

Fine...

Facetious comments aren't necessarily at issue but this is an open forum and it is not your place to "order" people out of "your" threads and otherwise behave in a mkanner that makes you a lightning rode for other people bad behavior. I'm beginning to see how you are bringing things on to yourself and at this oment finding myself losing any sympathy I might have had for you.

You seem to have no problem utilizing authority to have other people dealt with after you've undoubtedly provoked them. This is a little like being at a traffic stop and the first thing you say to the cop is' "I think you're a stupid pig." Brandishing your right to disrespect those in charge makes you a likely target for their wrath.

People who agree with you are not the only ones with a right to post in this thread and the discussion belongs to the owner of the database, not you.

 

How could you say words exchanged don't belong to the people who said them?

 

That isn't what I'm saying at all.

I'm dealing with not only what I'm seeing here in this discussion but also what else has taken place- with the realization that some things recently dealt with out of context were likely the result of provocation. Ordering someone out of a public thread is essentially assuming moderator status and an effective demand for respect which has not been earned or bestowed... which is in and of itself ironic considering the topic.

People are responsible for how they conduct themselves here and the guidelines make a very good attempt at defining what is acceptable use of the website and forums. The OP seems to think that everyone should find the truth in his assertions self evident and while there is no disputing the intelligence of his convictions there is plenty of doubt as to the wisdom used to express them.

 

Oh ok, my bad then.

However, I "attacked" Jack Flash as well, and I don't really think it's a big deal that we "attacked" someone who is clearly ignorant.

 

i still think 'fogey" is the proper spelling.

 

That's absolute bullshit. Everything you said in that paragraph was wrong.

1. I have never asked any authoritative figures here to do anything at all regarding anyone else. That seems compleatly made up out of the blue to me. I'd like to see what you're basing that on.

2. I never said or acted like the only people welcome are people who agree with me. The 'get out of my post' comment, while I understand it was harsh and I do not have the right to dictate what threads people frequent, it had nothing to do with people agreeing with me or not. It was a blatent topic change. No where in this thread does it say anything about tattoos or the morality issues they evoke or teen shootings. I beleive it is even a rule not to clutter a thread with off topic posts.

But I do understand it is not my place to enforce that rule, and if my language was too abrasive, I will take mind to watch my words from now on.

3. Also, I like for people not to agree with me. When I am proven wrong about something I generally admit it and ask whomever it was to explane what it was I was misinformed about so I can have a better understanding.

But blatant trolls or people who spew pointless one liners or circular logic, aggravate me.

Like I said, I'll mind my tongue. But you're personal judgments outside telling me the rules were dead wrong.


4. And for the issue in which you have lost pity for me regarding, that has nothing to do with these recent issues you have brought to me. In contrast, it is the cause of them. But as you said this is not the place for this to be discussed, so I will leave it be.

 

Haha.

 

I really do not see Jack Flash as being ignorant... he reflects a perspective that I share to an extent... the ability to read into someone based on how they use words and choose to interpret others is a skill that usually only comes with some time. He is from a time where the distinction between respect and disrespect was FAR clearer than it is today. He is put off by so much of what he sees here because he belives that so muc of the shit is unnecessary, I believe he is right.

I'm sorry that he wasn't cut more slack but perhaps I was expecting too much. Whether an innocent post is seen as trolling can depend on how a group of people choose to react to it.

I watched with some interest the exchanges with Mr. Flash and noted that he is pretty good at taking care of himself... so I saw no real need to jump in. I've taken the time to read what he has posted and it all makes perfect sense to me... he sees what is not intended as disrespectful as blatant disrespect. If any of us "fogies" had in that manner as kids we stood a good chance of getting our asses whipped. the lessons that are punctuated by a leather belt are not forgotten... now that's teaching two very useful tools for survival- respect and fear.

The core values and basic sense of personal ethics that were reinforced in childhoods 20 or more years ago will never be cast aside- even as the images and actions that are looked at by some as being the epitome of disrespect and hate are adopted by a new wave of pop culture- perhaps the fad getting a bit of a boost from that very antipathy that was expressed so well by Jack Flash. By calling him ignorant you assaulted his core values. Frankly I'm impressed by the restraint HE showed.

 

I made some assumptions about you based on my observation of how you use your words and how you seem to view other people... particularly how you react when someone is particularly blunt about a disagreement with you. Now, there are far less provocative ways of saying what you just said above. I have never pretended to be a perfect person- of the good impressions I get- less than half pan out but nearly all the bad impressions are ultimately proven to be spot on. I'll leave your steel trap of a brain to do the math here as to what I'm telling you.

Some of that response is some heavy speculation and I could have probably worded that better so we're even here.

You really need to be on the receiving end of some of your words- I suggest working on your tolerance first because I would expect you'd harbor little tolerance for another version of you.

I don't think I am dead wrong... there's much that I've seen out of you. Perhaps you don't realize how your use of language can really piss some folks off but what I've seen brings a great understanding of how a few people have dealt with you.

My impression of you includes a sense that you really don't like rules and have a default shit attitude toward anyone who enforces them... you likely figure you'll make your own rules and boo-hoo to anyone "stupid" enough not to agree with them. You are so completely sure of your own intellect that you tend not to listen to anyone else- even he who might have experience that you could use.

You language helps to paint a picture of who you are and more you brandish your words the clearer that picture becomes.

 

I really don't think I'm that bad. I have an attitude, yes. I need to work on how I come across to people, I'll agree with that. I don't like to seem like an asshole but it happens.

It's not that I don't like rules, it's not that I automatically hate authority. I just get angry when people who enforce the rules come off with this holier than thou attitude. And I have a tendency to snap back when I feel pushed. Maybe I'm over sensitive sometimes, granted. I know full well I can be self-ritious at times. Honestly, who isn't guilty of that?

My language only paints a the picture I choose to project. So don't think you know the first thing about me from a few scattered posts in an imaginary forum world.

And out of all my closest friends, the vast majority of them don't agree with me on most anything. Interpret that how you will.