ICP fans

You mean like the instant global communication that is allowing us to even dispute the lasting power of classical music?

 

Right

 

By the way, here are my findings after a quick youtube search:

Soulja Boy Tell`em - Crank That (Soulja Boy) - Views: 43,026,008


'Air' from Suite No.3 in D major - Johann Sebastian Bach - Views: 633,586


Note that the enormous disparity between the popularity of the two isn't intentional; I simply clicked the first video that resulted from my search.

 

Pppfffff, easily explainable.
Bach songs take time to digest, and the people who appreciate it are typically busy doing something productive with their lives.
While fans of Soulja Boy will have nothing better to do then click on the same song and watch it repeatedly, therefor giving a higher view count.

 

wheres yo proof, soulja boy? maybe the entire world easily digests Bach songs, and we just left you in the dust. :cheers2:

 

most of those Bach views were probably bad search results for Johann Santana, Jean-Sebastian Giguerre, Johans Cohen..

 

Dude you need to get laid or something brah, what up wit this mad beef? lol

 

ahaha.

It's my "mood for a day" and you were just the first unsuspecting victim I saw. :cheers2:

I've been throwing out these --> :cheers2: to indicate brotherly warmth, couldn't you tell?

 

tsk tsk. I think you just like advocating for the underdog

 

Damn, John, you read me like a book.

I can't help it, it's just my nature to do so. :cheers2:

 

Well, if I was smart, Id psychoanalyze that, but nah, rather just have a beer

 

and if I was bored, I'd say go all Freud on me.

....oh wait, I am bored.

 

either everything is art, or nothing is art. art is just a label, and a label is applied to something to describe its characteristics. describe bach or the beetles in simple characteristics that you could also not describe icp in. the characteristics that would make something art are a matter of personal preference. there are just too many variables to make a solid statement that one thing is art while another is not.

you talk about bach taking time to digest. perhaps you are just over-complicating his music? i could extract some deep meanings and ideas from icp songs, even though i know they aren't there (i still fucking hate icp but i dont think its any less art than anything else, just stupid art) unless you truly know for a fact what every "artist" was thinking in their heads while making their art you don't know its meaning, and its meaning is a big part of what makes it significant. mabye the beetles just wanted to get rich and didn't care about music? you dont know for a fact. you cant prove otherwise.

music expresses feelings. saying one producer of music is artist and another is not is a statement that cannot logically be argued, because you would have to define art to label something as not being art.

when you try to define art look at the definition. appealing, important, emotional. these are all things that are relative. whats appealing to one person isn't to another. whats important to one isn't to another. what causes emotion in one doesn't in a nother. I think you get my point

i think icp is so ridiculous its funny. but the followers i find sad. one of the guys from the band even said himself at one point the whole thing was basically a joke and they were in it for money, and were surprised that it took off like it did. your messiah just told you hes full of shit.

whatever connection you feel to your fellow clowns was either there before icp, or doesn't exist at all. because there is no grand wisdom or life teachings that icp gives that would form a collective of people. just say "im akward and it makes me feel better to be a part of something and hopefully i'll scare people so they leave me alone, and i might feel a bit of power for once in my sad life"

oh well im done rambling for now ill have to finish later

 

Takes time to digest due to complexity and depth, scope, length and composition.
There is no 'deeper' meaning to any of Bachs work, at least nothing emotionally charged. It's been said by Bach himself that his music is made in honour of the glory of God, so there is nothing else to look for. It's pure mathematics, generating emotions due to the perceived connection bridged between man and the divine by the composer.
Completley different concepts, so far removed that any attempt at comparison would be the likes of plugging your sneakers into a telephone, or shaving your teeth.

 

I really didn't want to jump back in but..

How can it be pure mathematics? Isn't honoring the Glory of God emotionally charged?

Math doesn't generate emotions in anyone. People aren't moved by mere logic. Bach was a human, and understood what it took to invoke emotions in others, because he was able to invoke those same feelings within himself. I think there is more than just math at play here.

 

Man do I really have to do this lol?
Bach's music is emotional, but it is not rooted in emotion.
The music brings feelings that are ineffable, the emotion is what, sadness? happyness? bliss? No, it's none of them, because it is transcendental to all emotions and defy all explanation, thus, Bach goes down in history as not only the greatest composer of all time, but has been given title the Father of Music.
The emotions are transmitted to you via sound vibration, and Bach understood how to trigger certain responses. But this is done in a way which we have yet to understand. The emotion of praising God is a combination of many emotions, but Bach figured out how to do it universally, he got it down to a science that no one yet has been able to reproduce.
"Johann Sebastian Bach's contributions to music—or, to borrow a term popularised by his student Lorenz Christoph Mizler, his "musical science"—are frequently bracketed with those by William Shakespeare in English literature and Isaac Newton in physics. Scientist and author Lewis Thomas once suggested how the people of Earth should communicate with the universe: "I would vote for Bach, all of Bach, streamed out into space, over and over again. We would be bragging, of course, but it is surely excusable to put the best possible face on at the beginning of such an acquaintance. We can tell the harder truths later."
If you cant see where Im going with this, I dont think any further elucidation is even possible. Bach incorporated geometry to sound in ways that, if you could see it while it was happening, would bend your mind in half.

 

yo, it's just music dude.

and bach didn't invent music wtf?

 

Did you get hit on the head or something?

 

no..

am I more stupid than usual?

 

Next to braindead lol