If GMOs are so good for you..

China and russia have banned them, new zealand treats them as hazardous waste - but the us fights even admitting them on a label to protect profits. Lode is just that, but should be spelled "load" because that'scwhat it is, a load of crap.

 

More likely: http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/tag/food/ (China Seeks Its Own GMO-Food Path)

NewZealand

New organisms

Genetic Modification and the Law

No GM seeds have been approved for release into the New Zealand environment. The law does not permit unapproved GM grains or seeds to be knowingly imported or planted. If GM seeds are detected prior to import, the consignment will not be allowed into New Zealand.

There are strict penalties under the Hazardous Substances and New Organisms Act (1996) for introducing new organisms (including GM organisms) into New Zealand without approval.

GM Constructs, Food and Labeling

GM material in food products for sale in New Zealand must be assessed and approved for use via Standard 1.5.2 of the Food Standards Code.

There are over 20 approved GM foods. Less than half are varieties of corn.

Food that contains GM DNA or protein, or has altered characteristics must be labeled as 'genetically modified'.
http://www.biosecurity.govt.nz/regs/imports/plants/gmo#law

The one you did get right was Russia (as far as I can tell)
But who knows how things will change.

 

My 500 GB hard drive, though about 5 times the size of the 256 mb flash drive, I would think, is more impressive than the 256 mb.

 

Take a PIC' and I will make a comparison picture for the internet to use in the future...
That's not meant to be sarcastic, BTW.
I will.

 

Actually that you say that odon, it seems we did hear some "cloak and dagger" intrigue awhile back about somebody "smuggling" seeds that was some three alarm deal? James bond of somewhere, on the run with...seeds?

But, as to at least some of the "frankenfish/frankenseeds" the evidence at this point is still pretty dubious and on the "against" side for me. As much for the natural environment as for the effects of eating them.

 

What did I mention? I was straightening up so of your assertions, and you got smuggling from that?

Well, perhaps you don't read enough...e.g's above.

 

You said china was pursuing their own gmo path and I recalled hearing about some relative industrial espionage awhile back.

 

OK. It just gets weird/confusing when you say 'we' and don't explain that well/miss facts out.

 

A few weeks ago I was grocery shopping with my father. I picked some bananas off the shelf and he said, "don't get those. They're organic. They're 26 cents more expensive than the other kind right here." I told him "Healthier foods are with the 26 extra cents to me."

Then we had yet another quarrel about organic vs unnaturally grown foods. He's stubborn in his ways that unnaturally grown and GMO foods are a good thing and they don't make any difference. He is a scientist yet he still can't comprehend what it means to be an organically grown food. By definition, any type of matter that is made of biological cellular material is organic matter, and it's true. This is his stubborn argument. He says inorganic foods are plastic fruit. He tells me that humans have been breeding crops and livestock for hundreds of years for the purpose of yielding more food; corn was 1/3 the size it is now, and bananas used to have lots and lots of seeds in them for example. There's a huge difference between breeding and altering the DNA at the molecular level.

I do think it's a shame that naturally grown foods cost more than the GMOs and conventionally grown stuff.

 

Talking like a contrarian doesn't make someone any less unscrupulous than what he is accusing an established group of being. Earlier in his career, Mercola was mainly a medical practitioner. Later he became more involved in personal direct marketing and started using a Jeff Rense style to persuade customers to buy his products.

Mercola and other contrarian direct marketers like him are known to portray an ideological view that they think their potential customers will admire and use it to promote a personal financial agenda. One of the more common methods involves making allegations that something is dangerous and linking it to a pharmaceutical industry, the government, or the medical establishment. It rings well with the psyche of potential customers who harbor a sentiment against such groups.

The allegation may be that a vaccine is dangerous and that it is made by a pharmaceutical company (bad guy), has been permitted by the government (bad guy), and shown to be effective and safe by research performed by the medical establishment (bad guy). Once the alleged danger is planted in people's minds, the direct marketer (good guy) offers a solution for it, such as buying supplements from him that are claimed to prevent the disease better than the vaccine.

The ploy is similar to the bad-cop/good-cop method that police use during an encounter to psychologically manipulate people to their advantage. The fake butter industry used the same trick to make saturated fat look bad and make fake butter look healthy. The technique is the same, whether it's coming from an individual such as Mercola or a more establishment-oriented groups such as a pharmaceutical company.

 

Numerous Mercola articles start with an alleged danger and end with the last paragraph directing customer traffic to his overpriced merchandise. Examples include alleged dangers of vaccines (buy his pro-immunue system supplements instead), alleged dangers of ordinary table salt (buy his special Himalayan salt, $55), alleged dangers of microwave ovens (buy his convection cooking bowl, $85), alleged danger of vitamin-A toxicity (buy his Krill oil), alleged danger of fluoride (buy his toothpaste), and alleged danger concerning dietary vitamin-D (buy his UV tanning machine, $4000).

His supplements have been lacking a certificate of analysis, a shortcoming Mercola has tried to defend using an alibi of "right to personal privacy." The excuse is similar to the one used by Monsanto and others who think that corporations should have the sole right in deciding what should be disclosed on the label.

If Mercola's claims are as factual as he says they are, they should be published in a peer reviewed science journal. In a criticism of Dr. T. Colin Campbell, Mercola says that he was busy working and didn't have the luxury of being able to publish science papers like Campbell. Campbell has about 350 peer reviewed published papers and he isn't even a multi-milloinaire with a $2 million luxurious mansion like Mercola. Mercola surely has enough of his own money to gather data and publish papers. A portion of his time that he devotes to direct marketing could be set aside for publishing. Grants can be obtained from private or public funding agencies. It appears that Mercola doesn't have any published papers in peer reviewed medical science journals. (Anyone who knows of any is welcome to post it here).

 

Mercola is known to change his recommendations based on the current state of competition in the supplement market. The cod liver oil supplement market has become highly competitive among direct marketers. For brand differentiation, Mercola now promotes his krill oil. Mercola plants seeds of unreasonable fear about vitamin-A toxicity of cod liver oil and then directs customers to his krill oil supplements as a solution.

The alleged danger may be an exaggeration or imaginary. It can be fabricated by hand-waving various facts to make it seem real in the minds of potential customers. Many people don't see the manipulation, and their judgment may already be impaired by their infatuation with what they see as an iconoclastic charisma of the marketer. It's a shifty method that marketers use to their advantage. Followers sometimes make apologies for such unscrupulous behavior because they feel that promoting the dissident ideology of the marketer is of higher importance than honesty and integrity.

The following is from the skeptoid site on the topic of vaccines and supplements and the act of intentionally twisting facts.

http://skeptoid.com/blog/2012/11/23/mercolawatch-misinformation-on-gardasil-hpv-vaccine/