If God Is A Contradiction Then He Does Not Exist

Hi Dejavu,

To clarify...

The Original Creator divided Himself up into trillions of souls billions of years ago (all souls everywhere) after The Big Bang was manifested with The Light. We are therefore what is left of Him in this timeline.

His long-term vision and genius is to enter into a Universe that is teeming with humanoid life. He cannot get there or here on His own because our space-time continuum is billions of years into His future and thereby only a possible future from His perspective. One cannot venture into a future that has yet to exist.

The Original Creator is banking on the invitation of one or more future ascended lesser gods in The Light in order to erect a pathway in a parallel timeline to this one, so that He can enter our space-time continuum.

This is how The First Coming will occur on this and many other worlds; a plan He conceived billions of years ago.

In order for us to become Co-Creators in The Light we must emulate the approach that The Original Creator used to grow into stable God Realization.

In our language, that is called Heart Chakra Radiance (HCR).

Cheers!

 

You can't prevent life but you can kill and you can mourn and you can bear children and rejoice.

You know no one who is dead and that is ample for living.

Remain with my unbounded form to where energy does go.

We see something we call the past, yet the past is not here. What eternal leading on, memories are private, being is shared.

Cut short nothing slow poke.
Having and being are the same. Nothing in front, nothing behind. Nothing that is that is yet to come. This is the forever living. The life of ten years is the same as the life of eighty years. Role credits...


*It would be humane in this society to realize no lives are cut short in the making of this film.

 

There is no order of difficulty. There is indecision about what we want in relying on taste where there is no accounting. There are many reasons to seek light and most begin and end with a moments comfort. Most have not made the final choice, the choice made because it is the only true choice. I want everything to overflowing and I want it now, the bologna sandwich can wait.

 

If a human contains a contradiction does (s)he stop existing? Why would God not exist because It might contain a contradiction? Or even more silly: because one particular religion's definition of God contains a contradiction? Seems like easy dismissing for your own convenience.

 

plus it fails to recognize that a greater number of phenomena in the universe either is a plain paradox or verges on being paradoxical rather than not.

seeming contradictions and paradox's are part and parcel of this reality.

A failure to recognize and accept that reality is the source for a lot of little minds having big headaches.

 

Hi thedope,

The law of cause and effect. Also referred to as causality.

We all get what we deserve through our spirituality or lack thereof. The Light is the great equalizer. Cosmic justice pans out after we leave our bodies and return to it.

And we must also not forget that patience is a virtue worth cultivating!

Now, regarding that sandwich order...

I'll take an organic pastrami on all natural rye with preservative-free mayo, organic lettuce, and rennet-free provolone cheese...please.

Thanks. :2thumbsup:

 

Spirit, breath is our only reality. If we deserving of death then must be because we were undeserving of life, yet we are born without debt.

Cosmic justice? What is so is so, la ti do. An eye for an eye leaves naught but blindness in it's wake. What standard is justice if justice is balance or equalized in the light, there is nothing owing or not guilty.

Banzai!!! There is no mustn't forgetting. Without forgetting there is no need for remembering, but to remember patience forget the choice of being upset.

I can't help you with what you want but I know where to find what you have.

 

Hi thedope,

Just so you know...

The reason for my philanthropy in here and in other forums is for it to increase my already accelerated spiritual growth pattern.

Past-life and interlife (i.e., in-between bodies as a spirit) research points to souls actually deciding to incarnate, even playing a role in choosing their parents.

As to being born without debt, if you are alluding to the idea that original sin does not exist, then I agree. Striving to live by The Golden Rule is the best way to avoid accumulating any additional negative karma. As to actually having no karmic debt to anyone, that would depend on how much spiritual homework one did when in-between incarnations, when in The Light. The smart and wise ones eradicate major karmic debts before incarnating again.

I did.

One clever way to do that (when one is a spirit once more), and which of course takes time, is to center oneself in The Light, ensuring that one is not combined with others of like mind in a Group Entity (as many like to do for reasons I will go into some other time), and program one's radiance of white light to go to those that one has a karmic debt to. Do this daily...for years.

Slowly the karmic debts will lessen and eventually disappear. :sunny:

I will endeavor to explain...

There is a seven plane paradigm in various religions and metaphysical philosopies around the world. Like in the Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism), Islam, Hinduism, Catholicism, and Gnosticism. Reference.

The basic idea is this...

Souls on the Other Side who are spiritually indifferent/morally corrupt cannot raise their soul vibration above the first or second planes. Most people ascend to the third plane. The basically spiritual souls ascend to the fourth plane, which is where all the large discarnate communities/large Group Entities/religious heavens reside. This is where many Christians who had a near-death experience go and then report back having seen a glorified city of gold. It is also where New Age Group Entities reside, like the one that the famous near-death experiencer - who I saw more than once in person - Dannion Brinkley visited during his first NDE in 1975.

The Spirit World contains within it a large number of "special interest groups."

But in the overall sense, we can ascend to a spiritual plane only if we have led a Golden Rule based life. If we are sadistic and cruel we will not be able to raise our spiritual vibration in The Light to a truly better place, and are forced, albeit indirectly, to reside on the lower dimensions with souls of like value system and disposition. Here's the rub: the first and second planes, which many refer to as HELL: SUCK! There we remain until we learn not to be that way and strive to amend our many karmic debts. So it need not be a permanent situation, only a learning experience.

We can 'agree to disagree' and I will stop posting in this thread; unless of course someone else wishes to continue this metaphysical conversation.

Cheers!

 

You've come to the right place as if any place wouldn't do. Just so you know
I am here to be helpful. Thoughts shared are increased. Cellular division is not multiplication.
What do you mean by an accelerated growth pattern? The mind chooses in an instant and yet again. The speed of light is constant.

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Hummm. What does that have to do with the fact that it is time for lunch, not at all meaning to be flip.

What additional karma if there is no debt? Additional means some owing to be added to. Who is giving credit and who is making charges?

The smart ones make hay while the sun shines. You paid off major debts you say, where is the bill of sale for those debts? Where is the bill of lading?

How long is a day or a year when one is spirit once more and when did we stop being inspired? Anyone who sets out on their own is vanguard of their own awakening.

The last judgment is our final one, when we have chosen the truth, because it is true.



I will endeavor to explain...

Yep a world model for academics. All exchanges of energy are equal, not reciprocal. For every action an equal and complementary reaction.
Hierarchy is an interest of scribes and special or exceptional is the ego's defense against the truth.

The basic idea is this...

Name the corrupt.

Name one of those most.

What I see is a lot of accusations and credits being given out. This world contains a lot of the specially interested, specially informed, and specially handicapped.

The reward of identifying with all things is the life that it brings. Our protections extend naturally to those things we call our own. Having and being are the same. The future is a projection not a history. Carry on the past is gone and paid for, or sort through your bills but don't do so on my account. I don't count that way. Multiplication is quick addition.

We don't need to agree to disagree. There is always room for agreement. You could continue with some real discussion about these contradictory premises. What good is your wisdom if it can't abide discussion?

 

Perhaps the idea of karmic debt is an extension of the belief in a monetary system in which debts must be paid in order to balance an account. Perhaps cause and effect can be interpreted in different ways, but wouldn't any interpretation necessarily be an attachment--an addition to that which is already complete.

Lack of enlightenment, like any other condition, is its own reward. Maybe all debt is paid in every moment, and all negative debt is cancelled upon realization of the true currency.

 

Kudos for possibility.

 

Avadar,

I wasn't sure whether I should say something, or simply agree to disagree and have you stop posting in this thread. But if I had chose the latter, god only knows what kind of karmic debt I would have incurred. Enlightenment comes with a price.

 

Possibly . . . perhaps.

 

There are three types of motivation. First, debt which has to do with punishment such as fear of hell. The second is credit, the desire for future reward such as good karma or heaven. Finally, self expression. A passion for doing something without any thought of future rewards or punishments. The first two are motivations from without and the third comes from within.

 

If we don't go within we go without.

 

There were these five little girls, ages five to ten, who lived in what can only be described as less than a shack. I thought we were poor, but they were poorer--dirt-poor. Their parents were known for leaving them alone on Friday nights so that they could go to the civic center in a city fifty miles away to watch the likes of the Shiek defend his title against the likes of Bull Curry or Bobo Brazil or Dick the Bruiser. I rode the same school bus as them (the five little girls, not the wrestlers), and I remember seeing them wearing the same dresses every day, and they wore these old, torn vinyl shoes with socks that didn't match, and coats that matched their shoes. They smelled like burnt wood and coal; they even had black streaks on their unwashed faces to complete the look. Some of the kids would make jokes, of course, saying shit like, "I want to date that chick. It must be that sexy burnt wood perfume." Everyone laughed. I laughed.

One day, after school let out and everyone was getting on the bus, the oldest of the girls couldn't find a seat. Which ever seat she tried to sit in, the kid in that seat wouldn't let her sit. After a couple of rejections, it became the in-thing to not let her sit next to you. There was lots of trash-talk about her clothes and the way she smelled and how often she took a bath. All of us neighbors were aware that there was no running water in the one-room shack that they lived in. A reason to resent her . . . I guess.

Finally, she tried forcing her way into a seat, but the kid in that seat turned sideways and used his dirty winter boots to shove her out; it didn't take much cuz she was skinny as a rail. She tried the same thing in the seat across the isle and the same thing happened. The bus driver was still in his car getting in a last cigarette before taking us home, so there was nobody to stop us. A couple of kids would try telling the rest of us to cut it out and leave her alone, but that didn't stop us. She was standing in the isle getting pushed back and forth from each side and almost falling. She came towards me at the back of the bus, and when she got close enough, I shoved her down by pushing her hard in the chest.

So there she lay on her back on the cold and dirty floor of the bus. That's when she finally broke down and cried . . . and screamed. An older highschool girl near the front of the bus left her seat and made her way back to the little girl, Darlene; her name was Darlene. The older girl reached down and helped her up and took her back with her to her seat. We all got quiet. We could see the older girl using kleenexes from her purse to wipe the muddy slush from Darlene's hands and the back of her coat.
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How do I make it right?

Later in life, I watched a nature show about hyenas. They had suddenly turned on one of their own. It rang a bell.

 

It was many years after that happened that I thought back on it and decided that there was no god, and that if there was one, then, like me, he, too, should be ashamed.

And it was many years after that that I decided that it wasn't productive to remember Darlene or God. But here I am. And as luck would have it, it turns out that Darlene is more real than God!

 

There is no it to make right besides the story.
You make the story right by telling it. It is a young ego that bullies and an uncertain one that gathers in groups. As the ego grows it becomes more tactful or uses different tactics. When I was a child I did childish things as I grew up I became more respectful.

 

I haven't decided that the world should be anything. I am gratefully gainfully employed having it.

 

Life isn't death. The alpha omega hoax has you on.

I know countless dead. That's why there are no ghosts. That everyone is alive is hollow consolation for those whose thoughts are of the lost...
Bring on the overflow.

Dreamer. A little better than the appellation 'liar', no? lol I hate to burst your bubble since we are more than flotsam and jetsam in our desire, but this isn't a matter of whether the captain goes down with his ship or not. He is his ship. :-D

Your forever leading yourself on with the lie that knowledge isn't perception, that it only leads to it. Knowledge is only ever ongoing knowing, and is always perceived.

Sheer convenience then? Is this your thought coming 'first' for what you deem practical? :-D Nothing stands still at any speed. You're in denial.

It would be no sort of 'realization'. That the length of life is ultimately unimportant doesn't mean life can't be cut short!