If God Is A Contradiction Then He Does Not Exist

There is more empirically shared evidence of what I am saying. I leave that shared testimony to the ones who care to share their personal experience of this presence mutually acknowledged. Yes you can communicate in an ongoing fashion with those people you love in the place you have always apprehended them. There are two hurdles to perception of this. If you actively deny existence based on the evidence of the body it is not possible. Second point. Our outer visible experience is demanding of our attention the inner experience needs tending to fathom.
I asked her do you walk with me, she responded, if I am invited. It was none other than my love, Dejavu.

The breath rises and falls like a wave, redundantly.

There are things you've yet to experience.

Any thing you feel is shared. The feeling of love is shared. Thoughts on what love should be are not.

I'm not the one pretending that people don't carry on.

Unless of course the light in you be darkness.

 

LOL The only one denying existence based on the evidence of the body is you! "I am not my body" you declare, and yet, you're there.

Why should I have this conversation with you as opposed to your average a.i. chatbot?
:-D

Not beyond my body. Your idea consciousness goes beyond its embodiment is not shared beyond the idea. lol

They are actually, you mustn't've been reading the latest girly magazines. :-D

Neither of us is that one, but you're definitely pretending we carry on beyond our embodiment!

It isn't. Light's not darkness in anyone. But there's more than my word you can take for it. How many times to have to tell you my perception is not all? I've never insisted you assign yourself to my trust. I trust as far as I am able, like any of us.

 

I am in the whirled. Expand your horizons in order to orient yourself to a larger experience. You base your opinion of being able to cut short life on the evidence of a dead body. I said the breath, spirit, leaves the body. I also said that the breath is not consciousness and I also said that mind is the communication between breath and the body and that any body will do. Just as the body is common currency of the species the breath is the common currency of our communication. Wrap your mouth around that and blow buzz lightyear like, "to infinity and beyond!"

Whether it be a conversation with half a chatbot or a mouthful of them there is no difference a chatbot being what it is. No order of difficulty, no should.

What do you think your consciousness is?

The feeling of love is shared regardless. The thoughts of what love should be are unpredictable. Let me tell you of the value of attraction. Angler fish.
It is an unreliable guide there being no accounting for taste.

Any body will do, the body being a communication device. You can even buy replacement parts.

The light in you being darkness is the belief that death has power over life, that death takes life away.

 

Can you answer the following question? Are you your body?

You don't care for this conversation? Is your indifference endemic?

Physical.

Our account is all there is for it. I wasn't an angler fish the last time I looked.

What shall I do with the new brain stem I purchase?

Death has never yet taken human life away. Your grounds for dismissing the possibility that it could are unsound.

 

Personal experience is not evidence. It is termed subjective for a reason. One person may agree with another person on something, but without the proper evidence to support both of their claims, they are mere claims without the proper evidence to support them. Argumentum ad populem is a fallacy for a reason.

 

Airyfox:

Are you sure? A claim's a claim's a claim.

 

Of course I am certain. A claim is a claim. A claim is not proof of anything except that a claim was made.

 

Here Dejavu would be consistent to come and argue against your claims on perception not being knowledge.
Second point about the perception if this. The outside world demands and commands our attention, the inner world needs tending to fathom. The outer world is in your face but you have subconscious motivations. This means you must be entirely self reflective for some period of time. Ten thousand hours to become virtuous at your profession, consider this and Know thyself. This is the applied use of our potentials for observation. You are being distracted by shiny things. And if you were seriously curious you could take the time to investigate and you could locate this breath body nexus of transpersonal communication. Personal reports from reliable sources are acted upon, for example police officers, the testimony of doctors, or your kid before you suspected him of lying to you. Consider the source of what is being said here, do I seem ignorant or whacked out or insensitive to the qualities of our experience? Do you think I would unwittingly concur with someone who was ignorant or whacked out?
What is your evidence that you have a distinct personality? My report has nothing to do with agreeing on belief. I didn't know that what I was experiencing of the same event of the same individual as the other witness was the same as they were experiencing until they told me what they experienced. I hadn't told them. There is more but that is irrelevant, how many does it take to break a news story?

And what's my reasoning again?

 

There is an owl calling very close to my window right now.

Bet it's tikoo!

oooo oo oo

 

I am being living creature.

There is one thing love and what is called different kinds of love is personal interest. You asked why it should make a difference to you whether you had this conversation with chatbot other than myself. I say it shouldn't being what a chatbot is and what a conversation is. All encounters are holy, no idle thoughts, no strangeness. Obviously I care for the content of our conversation and your conversant caring. I may never see you, doesn't mean I shouldn't trust that we have known each other for real or that anything escapes our consideration of each other. If you cling it escapes you. You cling because you don't want it to go away. If you embrace you recognize having and being are the same and what you have is never taken away from you but it is shared.

Conception, idealization.

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point is attraction get you hooked to certain fatal side shows like denying the existence of someone based on the evidence of the body

You have a late model already for shipping in your computer internet interface but as far as new models production can't keep up so it is a while to market for that, life constantly changing form.

But dear life survives absolutely by changing form and survives absolutely having been formed. Having and being are the same. My grounds for reality not being cut short are sound.

 

Airyfox:

Then how are you certain in your claim that personal experience is not evidence? Sure, what may seem self-evident is not always so, but then we are not saying perception only leads to knowledge, are we? ;-D The self gives way to its expression, is its own evidence, is basis of all proof. Why you and I don't believe in god. thedope once argued what he thinks to be his case against knowledge being its perception using the fact that misperceptions exist! If I remember correctly, he even thought misperception not a word, or rather one I had coined for the occasion, is that right thedope?! lol


thedope:

I know you're your body, but don't know that you do. So I'll ask again, are you your body?

The difference between this conversation and one with your holy bot is that I am having it with another besides myself. You. What you call 'one thing love' is as personal as any other love interest. Your peace of mind, does it bear that every encounter is what it is, not because of any uniformity, but endless form?

In the beginning was the deed.

Babbling. You may not get hung over, but neither have you brooked the imaginary division you swear by with regard to your body. Who holds your drink for you if you don't?

Forms change is only ever its replacement in part. Physicality has no substitute but more. The body is no device, being its own communication.

Only the grounds for the possibility of your own reality not being cut short.

 

Faith is not about evidence.

 

Asmodean:

Where's your evidence that it's not? Faith again? How do you even evince that your faith's what you think it is? :-D

 

No, objective deduction :2thumbsup:

 

Yes I once and always argued or state my case. My case is perception is not knowledge but can lead to it. First impressions are indicative but we hear the phrase I didn't like you in the beginning but you grew on me.

I am no thing in particular save breathing. I asked the body what it had to say on the subject, are you me? It replied I am being creature. Creature it turns out is a conglomerate.

My peace of mind comes from the whole picture, not just the frame. Saying, we are more than our consumption.

So you wrote this line before you thought to write this line? Just like Avadar's prophecy! Where future is history.

I don't drink. If you offer coffee or tea, I'll take coffee.

Reality is shared and belief is not the truth itself although it is necessary for the formation of perception.

 

Asmodean:

So faith is about evidence after all, however incomplete. :-D


thedope:

I liked you in the beginning, and will always like you, but I can't always promise to help your footing if shooting it's what you want to do! lol

We're things, and all things are particulate. Your body is alive and denies your divisiveness about it! The noble beast is appealing to you now as creature! Is it... tired of being your mailbox? lol Give it its dignity! Your body knows it's you no matter your pretending it's not! :-D

This picture is its own frame. A moving one. My saying life's more than its consumption... I overturned my own belief in said saying! I consumed it! No skeleton jumped out at me chattering its teeth at me in admonition... Unless?! lol

We wake up to ourselves. Only one way we've ever done that - by doing so.

I like water.

Belief is truth as far as we ever know it. Reality being shared doesn't mean your own speaks for it all.

 

I prefer the picture I am familiar with and if you change your spots how will I recognize you?
I see where the saying frightened you the moment the association of man not living by bread alone was brought to it. Didn't really hurt though.

Fucking alarm clock feels like a suppository in the crack of my dawn and then that retard sleeping next to me wet the bed and I found myself uncomfortable in soggy sheets so I got up. Those who venture out are those who are the path to their own awakening. Those who join the army have a rude awakening. My grandfather said the secret to long life is to get up everyday.

Apiscean?

When is knowledge not it's perception? When you say what is this I see.

 

The saying never frightened me, but it ceased to feed me! What went into its bread was taken for granted! Which grain of truth sustained me? Life as its own idea is consumed just as readily.

You sometimes think I wish for war. Must the troops wake the worse for wear?

My lucky stars.

No, even were I to find no answer, knowledge remains its accumulation and is not without its perception.

 

Yeah what difference the kind of bread when bread is not total nourishment unless it be taste. Taste doesn't sustain, it leaves you wondering what is next and if you think wondering what is next sustains you may find that that truck that hit you wasn't it. Taste doesn't know what it has a taste for when people say I'm hungry but I don't know what I want or what for. Some of life's ideas don't make it very far in time being still born or born into adverse conditions or the dreadful greedy or suicidal. Whatever floats your boat Dejavu but we both roil the waters beneath it.

They complain about reveille. Nothing to do with going to war but being made to wake up!

Interesting. My most facile communications have come with your ilk over the course of my life. My late wife for instance. She was a piscean astrologer among her many associations and was doing charts, by hand before computers started doing it and she could tell what sign you were by asking a few revealing questions and no, what sign are you or what is your birthday wasn't one of them. It was more like how does this or that situation impress you.

Well straight forwardly when I ask the question what am I seeing that means perception of itself is not enough information. If you pay attention or scrutinize with curiosity long enough then knowledge could become it's perception. Again knowledge is shared being constantly shared.
I thought about tying my shoes again in this instance but I will give
an astronomical example of the translation from the approach, to the knowledge of shared being. An asteroid has a wide elliptical orbit around a massive planet. The asteroid is perception and knowledge is the gravitational fixation of the planet. Every pass near to the planet perturbs the orbit of the asteroid slowing it down until it is captured or bound in near orbit. I qualify that this is a broad spacial reference not a mathematically precise one. Now you have this dance of familiarity called knowledge. There is an event horizon when repetition, practice toward a desired aim, becomes muscle memory.

 

On further review

My love does not seek it's own interest knowing only itself but listens for invitation. We always choose with a guide.

No. particular forms do end. Species go extinct. If form is the content of life then I am threatened with extinction. We cannot escape the effects of our own thinking. If the evidence of the body is convincing to you then you cannot be at peace unless you find your peace in sorrow and I would say you didn't know the difference. This evidence is not evidence of fault of not wanting to embrace life enough but the fact that form is a transit from one to another a communication yes but transit between is simply communication between. We always choose with a guide.

A machine is a tool containing one or more parts that uses energy to perform an intended action. We have established that the body consists of parts of that description for that intention and that intention is communication. Looks like a duck walking dynastic, I say duck although there is always a possibility of turkey. The body has it's own communication, autonomous nervous system, animal animated by animus and forms a biofeedback loop between the breath and the body called mind. It is a self referential loop but it is two voices speaking to each other. The breath go in and out of the body and through our words, the motions of breath informed by body we justify our experience.

Not my body. It only does what I tell it but will tell me things it thinks I want to know, like my freakin leg hurts for no reason I had anticipated yet once I have acknowledged and treated it comfortably it is not overtly grateful.