If God loves us unconditionally, why does he kill us instead of curing us?

Those murderers are long dead and have met their maker. But they had nothing to do with your cult of imposters, which is a twentieth century concoction that has no connection with victims of the Inquisition. BTW, the Inquisition was a Catholic thing. Hard to blame Methodists and Quakers for it.

 

I am not here to teach you about religion. If you are interested in a particular religion, or any other area of knowledge, I suggest you check it out for yourself. For instance, if you want to know what the gnostics believed, read gnostic texts - many are available online, so you don't even have to shell out any extra cash.

If you come on a public forum and start to post nonsense and then clam up when challenged, what do you expect?

So - Cathars - reincarnation - how according to you did they understand it, as you say they didn't literally believe in it or anything 'supernatural'?

 

Tell us about Saint Germain and the violet flame. Is it true that he is over 700 years old, and that members of your cult believe he is still sending messages to your leaders? Isn't that kind of supernatural? This is the I Am Activity we're talking about, isn't it?

 

I believe my work here is done.

 

Leave texts aside for now - maybe we'll come to that after we get an anwer to the question, now the 4th time of asking: If the Cathars didn't believe in the literal truth of reincarnation, how did they understand it?

 

Two to beam up

 

Keep waiting, all while ignoring what I put above.
What a pathetic mind.

Regards
DL

 

He has you beat by at least twenty IQ points. Might want to drop the arrogant attitude.

 

I know and look in to a site dedicated to re-incarnation. many there believe in it but no one that I can recall can gave a verifiable report on it or claim to have found proof.

I do believe, thanks to my apotheosis, that there is a cosmic consciousness out there, but I could not tell if it was populated by our active or live consciousness' or the consciousness' of the dead.

Look up the research on the God helmet and note that they think what they are viewing is a cosmic consciousness that resides in our magnetic shield.

Regards
DL

 

As fantasy, like all other supernatural issues. We were the intelligentsia for crying out loud.

Here is how they thought and I think I gave this on the Gnostic Christian thread as well.

I hope you can see how intelligent the ancients were as compared to the mental trash that modern preachers and theists are using with the literal reading of myths.

What is God?

Further.
Bill Moyers Journal . Watch & Listen | PBS

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about the literal reading of myths.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

This is how early Gnostic Christians view the transition from reading myths properly to destructive literal reading and idol worship.



Regards
DL

 

You simply get the same kind of respect back as you dish out. So nothing to complain. It was also ment humorous: please take your time and answer BlackBillBlakes and Okiefreaks posts in those thread.
You will be regarded as a hypocrite troll if you don't (and it seems not just by me).

Not sure. It would make his IQ far below average as i don't think mine is exceptional high. But its possible

Yups. Especially if you can't handle your convo partners fair and on topic questions that directly pertain to your own supposed belief system, after pissing on those of others

 

Bite me.

Regards
DL

 

Origen cut his nuts off with a clam shell.

Just sayin’

 

Talking about cathartic! Or is that taking things too literal

 

Again this is all irrelevant. I already told you that the Cathars had no scriptures of their own and only used the Gospel of John. We're not seeking an interpretation of scripture, but an answer to a point you made but now can't defend.
To say the Cathars just had reincarnation as a 'fantasy' is utterly asbsurd as in general, not many people consent to be burned alive in suport of a fantasy, when just a change of 'fantasy' could save them from that deplorable fate.
Many Cathars stated clearly that they believed in reincarnation. It was absolutely central to their entire belief system.

You made a mistake, and now won't admit it. But to admit that we were wrong yesterday is only to say that now we are wiser.

 

Hahaha

is that a gnostic ritual?
Do I gain secret knowledge and an unearned air of intellectual superiority yet still sound like a brochure found at a supermarket?

 

He did. As a sacrifice to the goddess I believe. It was before he became a Christian.

 

No record of self mutilation by gnostics. I think if memeory serves that Origen was at one time a worshipper of the goddess Cybele, a pagan cult

 

He has quite a few interesting Apologies once he converted. Still though... can he be classified as a proper gnostic? Some also consider him a Church Father.

 

A quick last word abut Origen - his version of Christianity is somewhat 'nicer' than the mainstream orthodox account. Origen was heavily influenced by neo-platonism, and in his view, eventually everyone, Satan included, will be 'saved' in the sense that all will return to the One from which all things emmanated. No eternal damnation.