If You Are A Confident Man, Why Are You So?

Yet another example of your mindset that results in a lack of game. Stop that shit.

 

That's not their problem. Just yours.

 

Why would it be a problem for them? A lot of men are already trying to talk to them. This is how they became concetied.

 

Reality is that most of girls are concetied here. They make sour faces if you try to talk to them.

 

May as well give up on that then.

 

If I posted this on a turkish forum, members wouldn't post like that to me, they would agree with me about turkish girls being conceited. Turkish girls are known to be conceited. Foreigners can't understand it because they don't live in Turkey. You try to talk to them and they make sour faces to you. This is the way they act. I am in a class where 70 percent of students are females and I can't even talk to them, they make sour faces when I try to talk to them. Exceptions don't break the rule. When you post ''why are turkish girls concetied'' on google in turkish language, you can see tons of pages about it on google. But unfortunetly you don't know turkish.

 

Whatever you say I'm sure that relations between boys and girls do occur in Turkey as in every other country on this earth.

You say Turkish girls are conceited and hard to talk to - well, English girls can be just the same, even French girls can be that way. My experience tells me it's all a question of not pressing the wrong buttons - if a girl thinks all you want is sex, you probably won't get far. Even if they are conceited and stand-offish, they must one day yield to a man (unless they prefer girls of course). So my advice would be to persevere. Try to talk to girls about subjects that are far away from sex. Maybe try to talk to them about things they are interested in. Unless you first make a girl your friend, you aren't likely to proceed to the desired result.

 

I can't go further than saying hi, how are you doing. Things don't get any futher than saying hi, how are you doing, they make sour faces

 

Well, clearly you need a different approach. If I think this is going to happen to me, I wait until they aren't looking, whip my dick out and then say something manly like "Hey there....Sugarass!" (It helps if you can fake a New York City accent). I've found that I have a 59% success rate in them immediately wanting to have sex with me. Another 24% just want to talk and cuddle. The rest of them call me an asshole or a bastard but hey...at least the ice is broken and we're talking. I have never had a sour face made to me when using this method.

So try that and report back with your statistics.

 

if we had sour face emojis, you would be getting some from us too

 

maybe that's because they're doing sourly.

 

Not really. They make sour faces if YOU and guys like you try to talk to them. I'm sure it looks like they treat every guy over there like they treat you if most guys take the same approach as you, but that doesn't make it so. When I was in Istanbul I did not get such reactions. I did notice lots of turkish guys were sexually harrassing girls, especially on the metro/train. Such guys do of course only get what they deserve when women try to cut them off as soon as possible.

That a lot of guys expect different treatment from girls over there does not mean it's the fault of the women in the first place. In fact, that you all are complaining on a forum about this and agreeing with eachother how nasty these girls are treating you when you try to get some attention of them only makes your problem worse and you more pathetic. I'm not trying to be mean: I really mean what I say. You are so desperate for female attention even negative attention would do. Why not try something else, if only for yourself... Guys like you are so sad and hopeless.

Foreigners (not just foreigners, not ALL turkish guys are the same happily) DO understand what you are saying. It seems the foreigners you are talking to on here understand the situation even better than you. We understand why the women react to you and guys like you very well. And guess what, we applaud their way of handling it.
It's (guys like) you dude. Who don't get what they want with their current behaviour and all complain on a turkish internet forum about it and pity themselves and eachother. It's all you. We understand, you better understand it some time too. Or just remain ignorant and shut up about it. After all, you're not on that turkish forum here and every one is saying it is you. Your motivation, your approach, your attitude etc. etc. You know now what kind of advice and answers you get here. You either do something with it or quit repeating yourself.

You think you would get different reactions from women if you were here but they would not get more positive for you. Just even more clear. You would get sour faces though

 

i am confident that diversity is the nature of reality, and that expectation, is the doorway to disappointment.

only, in other words, about things surrounding me, rather then anything to do, directly with my true own self.

i am confident that i am a thing that exists. other then that, i find no meaning in the concept.

 

Turkish girls act better to foreigners.

 

I very much believe in Carl Jung's theory that there is a masculine side and feminine side to all of us.

To be confident, I think whether subconscious or not, you take realization with this.

In this time in age, it almost seems offensive to describe the characteristics of feminine verse masculine

But when you get down to it, confidence is the realization who of you are despite social standards. Think about the fact that snoop dog can smoke pot on television or wherever he damn pleases. He is so himself he has become exempt from the law. And he isn't the only example. When you're yourself, and you accept it, there's not a thing anybody can say to change that, and it's a sign of beauty. Who wouldn't be attracted to that?

 

There's a reason that they act better to foreigners than to (guys like) you.

 

Because I am hot as fuck.

 

atsizat, you should would wear a gopro camera and upload the video so we could see your approach and what you're talking about. I'm really dying of curiosity.

In terms of confidence, you're wrong, not every pretty girl has it. Although some might pretend they do, or might turn guys down because they have been hurt or have been preyed upon in the past by people who just wanted to use them. It's not necessarily always about you. That said, desperation is obvious, and can put ladies off all by itself, because they wonder if you're that way for a reason...

 

Its ironic men in male dominated cultures put certain sexual expectations on women (no premarital sex, no handholding like the story the OP relayed), but when women discourage men from speaking to them in order to live up to these expectations they're thought of as conceited.

 

It seems to me he's jumping to that conclusion due to the assumption that they scowl at him because they think they are out of his league. I'm betting it's a number of things we can't quantify with typed words on a message board, but more to do with body language and attitude- things the OP would not be aware of as he can't see himself from the outside. Hence my idea of taking a video of himself- not just one pointing at him, but one pointed at the girl as well. If only we could set up a whole sociological experiment around this guy. I'm sure we could learn a lot about how people interact.

atsizat, you could become internet famous. Think of what might happen to your love life if you went viral!