If You Don't Believe In God Your Stupid

Irm,

I didnt say running is our sole purpose, I said thats why we dont have fur. At one time being able to runlong distances was an evolutionary advantage. Most animals cant run long distance precisely because they cant sweat, and they cant sweat because they have fur.

 

I keep seeing this topic and the word stupid.

Now I have to come out.



.....I believe (we) were dropped off.

 

actually the reason human are relatively hairless is because we got big ole' brains and those big brains use lots of nutrients and burns lots of calories thinking and figurin' and in doing so generate a lot of heat.
If we didn't sweat and had fur, our brains would boil.

to me the real mystery is the very short time it took for the frontal cortex to develop, almost overnight in evolutionary terms.
what is interesting is that brain structure is where our sense of self and the properties of self awareness, conscious and all that jazz reside (more or less) and it is also why/how our heads grew so large that childbirth became an issue so we developed skull plates that can overlap one another.

BUT what is also interesting is all the hoopla in Genesis that correlates with the development of the neo-cortex.
the account of all the things that befell Adam & Eve after eating the fruit of knowledge are all things that relate to a larger brain;

self awareness--they saw they were naked and clothed themselves
toil and strife in surviving-- because we can think and project into the future we stress over it and thus through toil and strife we eek out a subsistence
pain in childbearing--DUH! bigger brain means and bigger head and more stretching of a ladies hoo-haa

 

That is pretty interesting

 

I'm just stirring Mel.

I said I was just carrying on because I knew it was irritating the full on people.

 

Lol oh ok then

I really like the study of evolution, i might get a little full on about it

 

Dolphins are the smartest creatures after humans, not chimps

And adult chimp is as about as smart as a six year old child, an adult dolphin about as smart as a 10 year old human child.

Dolphins are almost as smart as us, their language is more complex than ours and they have ecolocation


If humans hadnt evolved, or came from whereever you want to believe they came from, given another couple hundred thousand years and Dolphins would be building shopping malls and watching reality TV. Which seems to be the apex of human evolution


Its just your version of what better or more intelligent is. The brain of a cheetah running down prey is processing more calculations per second than a human playing chess



And when it comes to all animal and plant life on the planet, the earths biomass, 2/3 of it is bacteria. Bacteria is the dominant lifeform on the planet, not humans


You want to think we arent just evolved apes/monkeys, What do we do with this superiority? NASCAR - race cars around in little circles for hours on end

 

Well the drivers do, i just happily drink alcohol, smoke drugs and watch it.

 

Chimps eat meat...

 

Yeah well when a monkey takes down a cow and starts BBQing t bone steak, gimme a holla.

 

LOL...
you're such a dickhead some times...I love it.

 

At least you can tell that though, or have a laugh with and or at me.

It's the other people that worry me, the ones who actually think I'm being serious.

 

but I would love to see some monkeys grillin' up some steaks.

 

I know bear grills

 

one thing that irritates me is when people compare humans to other life forms,
they fail to point out that they are only talking about our earth,

the implication being that only what we know can exist,

yet at the same time they insist on gods and hierarchies of gods, or a god.

so which is it.

and for me the answer is obvious
because we live in a universe so vast
our entire, huge in comparison to our individual selves,
world, is no more then a grain of sand in it,
that things we know nothing about, HAVE to exist.

and that no matter how weird looking someone born on a planet circling some other sun,
they are still just a person, no more nor less,

which is a seperate thing from gods and their like, which are also persons, but non-physical.
(and don't HAVE to exist, but nothing could stop them from existing if they chose to)

really, not only is the existence of gods or a god optional,
but the existence of anything and everything including ourselves,
is also, and not required by anything.

what is fascinating though is the implication,
that we do exist, and if we exist, other things that aren't required to,
and of which we have as yet no knowledge,
(and might never because there are likely so many of them),
not only might, but seem intuitively likely, exist also.

still none of this requires what we don't arrive at by scientific process,
to conform to what even a consensus of us,
might choose to imagine about them

however ancient or revered such imaginings might happen to be.

 

what's really stupid, is to imagine, because a lot of people believe some of the same things, or what they believe to be the same things as each other, that anything beyond how people relate to each other, has to be that way.

its a matter of proportion. no matter how many people you know who you think think a particular way, well they're only a portion of people living on this earth, and this whole great big earth, is still i teeny tiny micro grain of sand in such a great big universe, that's going to go right on doing everything they way IT does, no matter how many of us like it or not.

now there's lots of things we know nothing about, because the universe is that big, and almost all we've ever seen of it is this one grain of sand.
and there might be parallel universes. there might real concrete non-physical things. there might very well be god-like beings.

but take a step back and look at this in proportion.
is there even the slightest reason to expect, any god-like being that might exist, to even remotely resemble, let alone closely, anything anyone has ever imagined, or written in some book?

and it isn't very smart to hate logic either.

 

I get what you're saying, but you're also limiting yourself to a starting point that begins after the actual starting point.
As in... you're right that there are a ton of influences, evolutions and permutations that need to be accounted for.

But you can always break it down further and further until it all starts at the beginning of the universe.
So, no... there is no sense where we don't have a common ancestor with another species.
And if you go back to Day 1, every living thing on Earth (and beyond) is connected by the common ancestor of the primordial ooze.

Cthulhu is our daddy.

 

I love how the religious, feminists, and vegans don't charge money to entertain us!