if you kill a police officer in self defense, is it self defense?

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Gravity, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. XBloodyNailPolishX

    XBloodyNailPolishX Forgetful Philosopher

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    family or friends. NEVER pigs... I can take care of myself without them sticking their snouts in my business.
     
  2. stev90

    stev90 Banned

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    I agree with NailPolish.
    Family or friends first. Don't trust pigs. Why??

    Because only a thin line separates the pig, or rather the cop, from the criminal.
     
  3. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Thats very sad to me.
     
  4. LIP

    LIP Banned

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    I'd rather not shoot - i'd rather hack at his throat and decapitate him with a small blade. Get in close is what i say. I want to hear him gurgle and choke on his own blood before i pull his head clean off.

    If he started beating someone for nothing, and they shot him - it's self defence. But i doubt a court would see it like that because it's a cop, period.

    But America's fucked - you might JUST about be able to get away with it in England but im not sure - probably get manslaughter but thats better than murder.
     
  5. Arlandis

    Arlandis Visitor

    I find that hard to believe.

    Are you saying if someone raped you you wouldn't call the police?
     
  6. broony

    broony Banned

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    If i had a daughter i hope she would call me. Family always first.
     
  7. Michaela

    Michaela Member

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    Gravity - Police Officers want you to be completely compliant - regardless of whether or not they have justification in what they are doing to you, the citizen. The judicial system in the United States is no longer about right vs wrong; justice; or righteousness. It's like; if the officer said you did something unlawful, then that's his story; and he's sticking to it. Once they commit themselves to how things went down, then that's how things went down. They will call on their fellow officers to back their play, if necessary; to make it stick. It is not uncommon for them to lie for each other - it's all about the numbers and the conviction rate. It's frightening, but true. Years back, I believe that it was not this way - I believe that there was a time when the system was not so riddled with corruption, and there were good cops. But this is the year 2008 - and people have become consumed with greed for power and greed for money. And, it's not just the cops - it's the entire judicial system that is broken. They are just one integral part of it; and they serve a specific purpose, to be sure. Several years ago, I was involved in a research project surrounding the suicide death of a mother of an associate of mine; and the subsequent attempt to convict his innocent father of murdering her. What we unearthed was a system of corruption so enmeshed that it involved every individual from the police officers up through the DA and the judge who ruled in the case! We're talking about the cops, the coroner (medical examiner), the district attorney, the board of supervisors, and the judge. They all participated in attempting to convict his father of murder - and all knowing that the man really didn't do it!! And, why? Because they needed a murder conviction that month for their conviction rate to go up a bump! We got the father acquitted, and their son (my associate) still has a ten-million dollar lawsuit pending against the county in which this took place. And, here's the worst part of this whole scenario: this was not uncommon behavior for that particular county's officials! It was, "business as usual."

    So, Gravity; my advice to you is: out of sight, out of mind .... if an incident such as the one you described actually does happen to you - be compliant and cooperative - you'd be doing that for yourself, not for them. For; once they target you; you're through anyway. You will do nothing good in your own behalf by fighting against them - they rarely lose. Unless, like a few of the folks have mentioned here, someone is catching their activity on film: then you've got 'em.

    Sincere Regards, Michaela
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  8. I'minmyunderwear

    I'minmyunderwear Newbie

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    of course not. if someone was breaking into your house would you call the crips? i don't see the point if you're in trouble of calling in more trouble
     
  9. bekyboo52

    bekyboo52 52~unknown~52

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    i think that in canada the law system is more simple than in america.....amarica the police are on your back for every little thing (*eg. warning other drivers that there are traffic cops somewhere by blinking your lights....in canada its ok- they actually prefer it but in america its conspericy...)
     
  10. mamaKCita

    mamaKCita fucking stupid.

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    i've never had a bad experience with a cop. they've come in handy loads of times.
     
  11. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Yes they really do.
     
  12. lode

    lode Banned

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    I have a rather poor impression of 5-0 as well, and I prefer to keep them out of any situation for fear of making it worse.

    Though I certainly wouldn't rather live in a police free society.
     

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