If you were accused of not being a Christian, could you prove them wrong?

If you don't believe what Jesus believes, and commands you to believe and do, why do you call yourself a Christian? Is it an act of people-pleasing social conformity, a craven need to be seen as a “decent family values” groupie, rather than an socially despised anarchistic free-thinker?

Seeing you prefer to graze, smorgasbord style, on the apparently fallible Bible, why not differentiate yourselves from them heretical Christians? You know, those reactionary goons who think God and Jesus wrote a inerrant canonical manual, not some debatable Mills and Boon style novel - as you treat it,

Why continue to be a cuckoo in the Christian's nest? Calling yourself a Christian when you don't believe as Christ, the patent proto Fundie, did. It's because you can craftily capitalise on Christian's unduly good name in society, isn't it!

The only difference between you and I is the bits of the Bible we choose to believe. And I don't craftily seek the favour of our sick society by slimily claiming I am a Christian.

Fer Satan sake, be a man, instead of a mealy mouthed mimeo. Start by calling yourself something that distinguishes you from Jesus's goose-stepping Marcel Marceau mimes. Can I suggest Taints? (taint Christian and it taint quite agnostic:smilielol5

 

Haughty and harsh?? I'm not quite with you. You sounded pretty Christian to me.

 

What Jesus believes?

Jesus has no need for belief.

 

Thank You

 

That's right. Jesus has no need to believe. According to Christians, even contrarian Christians like you, Okie, and Hannah, he knows everything.

So why do you treat his divine dictates as mere suggestions? Pray enlighten me, Oh Sapient Maple Syrup Sucker. Whereabouts in the Bible does Big Daddy, or His suicidal snot-gobbler, say which bits are non-binding and which bits are cut and dried Commandments?

 

You speak as if the bible was written by God. What makes you think so?

 

I was taught that it is the word of god...why do you believe otherwise?
( My Grandfather was a southern baptist preacher, so I do know a little about this shit):2thumbsup:
ZW

 

Wasn't talking to you. I was talking to geridink.

Still, seeing as how you asked me a question I'll answer. Men write. I've not seen God write so there's no reason to believe He wrote the bible. But in your case you believe it because, as you said, you've been taught to believe it.

This is not to say I disbelieve that God had an influence on writings that appear in the collection. God is a being of spirit and mind (the first in fact from which all others are created) and we are that as well, though we are also mired in flesh. Despite our disadvantage, it is always possible for us to have contact with God by benefit of our commonality (spirit).

 

Because I'm writing to frauds who pretend to believe he wrote it. If your Jewish "God" did write it, I'll happily suffer an Appalachian Fundie fucking me up the shit chute!

However, you transparently digress. Back to business:

If the Bible is found to contain errors, and it has been shown to have many, then how can any of it be “God inspired.” If God is capable of blotting his copy book, or he allows his Bedouin scribes to fuck up his infallible word, then any instructions therein are moot, Apocryphal.

How it is interpreted and acted on then is, as apartheid practising Proddies and sophistic, Christmas Eve Christians such as yourself insist, a theological free-for-all. Biblical Christianity would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka9mfZbTFbk"]a veritable bedlam of competing Protesant sects ......hang on a minute...IT IS!!

 

How do we know we have the fair dinkum Jewish God and not the Muslim's Allah (Fitzgerald?) ?

 

You realise that without the Bible all of this is sheer personal assumption??

 

Catch ya later. I'm off to take My Lords and My Dogs up to the park for a run.

 

I know, I'm not stupid. Just quoted to make it clear for the 'dear reader' to whom and what I was referring , ya know?

I don't believe it, as I said, I'm not stupid.

You really didn't answer my question at all. I'll rephrase.
Why don't you believe the big g-dog completely directed the hand of those who wrote the books of the bible?

Ezerbet, as a professed southern baptist, is this not what you believe?

ZW

 

No! The accuser would be very perceptive.

 

1/ if they believe it, they're not frauds
2/ errors in literalness perhaps but as metaphors, allegories, myth, cautionaey tales - they are allusions to actual truths. And pretty good ones considering when they were written.
3/ you are, by your words, a very gross and unbecoming human being. No law against it, though.
4/ people have been acting horridly throughout history for all kinds of reasons from simple selfishness to profound belief. Not just 'believers' of the bible. Those who have done wrong in the name of the bible have done so because a) they don't understand what the bible is or b) they don't care and just use the bible as a cover for their own actions.
5) Christianity is defineed by me as I gave you already. Competing definitions are competing definitions. Those who live by His example are following in the Way of Him and that does not involve doing violence to others. But the law permits the use of the term 'christian' for all kinds of organizations. All the more important that we are discriminating about what organizations (if any) we choose to associate.

There's only one God.

Okay. I got mine, you got yours.

But the bible is only one collection of religious expression. The soul we call Christ may have inhabited a body that was of Jewish lineage, but that doesn't have to mean He's a Jew. He could be more Buddhist then Jew by way of His example, know what I mean.

 

Your question was a response to a post I addressed to geridinks. This:

Nothing said about the 'word of God'. But you said:

And I answered that I've not seen God write. The only writing I know of was done by people.

As to your 'rephrasing' I'll say: why don't YOU believe God completely etc etc?

 

uuuh, probably because I don't believe in god(s)

ZW

 

I dont really belong to any certain church , but , I believe the Bible is called
The Word Of God , and was written by men that were inspired to do so.
I also have heard that the disciples that followed Jesus wrote the books of the New Testament 30 years after his death , so they were writing things from memories.
The Bible was written by men , and has been translated and re-written many times , so that what we read NOW may be changed a bit from what it was originally.
I believe that it was written so that many people can read the same verse , but come away with their own ideas of what the words were saying to them , so that we all have a chance to make our own choices.
I read it , and I consider it sacred , and I believe in Heavenly Father and Jesus and The Holy Spirit......Im just not a church goer or a follower of any particular religion.
And I really am not botherd by folks who think Im lame for my beliefs , because thats just who I am.
God Bless Yall

 

As soon as you say, "my God isn't like that crazy murdering bastard in the Bible and his perfidious son, he is like a cute l'il Labrador puppy, he loves everyone!" you have given birth to a graven image begot by your own naturally scandalised psyche. From then on you are the infallible Pope, if not the God, of your very own religion with a grand membership of one.


So c'mon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coOvaiHU9Mc"]Nelson. Try to summon enough courage to complete the spiritual schism by excommunicating those murdering bastards, Jewsarse and Jehovah.


This post applies to the other demigods on this thread. :devil:

 

Fair enough ... better than a reactionary nihilst :beatnik:


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