If you weren't there, you're just a neo-hippie

Discussion in 'Hippies' started by Sam_Stoned, Sep 16, 2010.

  1. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I'm sorry, I quite often miss the sarcasm in text posts. I'm better to detect it in my own language already so blame it on that. :p
     
  2. boguskyle

    boguskyle kyleboguesque

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    i dont think youre defending much. the hippies from the 60's and 70's can speak for themselves.

    so im taking it that you're distinguishing the difference between an "authentic" hippie from neo-hippies is pretty much the times. the whole revolution and protest thing did bring people together (and seperated people) but it was part of the times. the people are still there, and it'd be those people that'd get all hippied out if there were major events again.
     
  3. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    I think maybe it just wasn't sarcastic enough :D

    To be fair, as much as I haven't a problem with people calling themselves hippies, I do believe all the negative stereotypes have been cared for more so by our younger generations

    because, well, sex, drugs and rock 'n roll seem just that bit more enjoyable than recycling your waste or giving up McDonalds for tofu.


    But alas, people can say what they like because it's all pretty harmless.
     
  4. kinulpture

    kinulpture Member

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    actually i think even if ppl were even "there". why does it really matter anyway? the thing kinda fell apart as it was noticed that not everyone was really in the "groove". oh sure lip service has been paid to it ad nauseum. but izz it really possible to live on the streets, & "maintain"? i tried it, granted i was a lil too late as it were. i became just a bit disilliusioned with it. & now i can see why it fell apart.
     
  5. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    The point I was trying to make is that the values that we have come from our parents. If your parents are destructive, consumerist, greedheads chances are you will eventually be a destructive, consumerist, greedhead. It' isn't your fashion sense, or taste in music that makes you a hippie it is your values. Some kids go through a "Hippie Phase" to piss off the investment banker that they happen to descend from. Then they hit their mid 20's and get a job at their dad's firm making 50k a year and driving a Range Rover that gets 3 gallons to the mile and throwing their trash out the window for others to pick up. That was their upbringing and their real values. If your parents are died in the wool old school hippies that held on to their values and imparted them upon you then chances are you will have their hippie values. And that was the point I was trying to make.

    Peace Out,
    Rev j
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Well, my parents gave me values that can be considered very hippie, others would maybe describe it as good christian values but that's besides the point :p, what I'm saying is being raised with such values, even when you live by them yourself, doesn't necessarily make you or your parents hippie (or christian...).
     
  7. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    ^^Are you talking about actual Christians. I mean the ones who really try to love and understand each other and believe in brotherhood or the ones who "Wouldn't piss on a faggot if he was on fire?" I mean the ones who think gays in the military is "Bad for morale." Sorry, just found out that "don't ask don't tell," hasn't been repealed yet. I'll yet again hand this over to Bill Hicks:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPXC9hMlRqU"]YouTube - Bill Hicks - Gays in the Military

    Fuck it dude, Cop, Soldier, Garbage Man, 3 people on earth who's job you couldn't pay me enough to do.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  8. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    Pardon me, but you are a name on the computer screen. Are you of any authority to say who is or is not a hippy? Are you of the age you state, or are you someone else? Ah, yes. The joys of the internet, where anyone can be anybody they wish and no one will know any different.

    Kinda.

    Because you are labeling. Yeah, SOME hippies labled. But most that I know of detested labeling. They detested signs. And yeah they even detested fences (lol!). They detested authority figures, because authority figures labeled them. Who is anyone to tell me what I am? But if I wear a label, I'm a hippy. Like it or not. Non of this "neo" crap.

    You may post pretty good stuff, you may be from the era you claim. You can be anyone, sunshine! But you are no authority over me and you will never have the right to tell me or others what we are. If we wanna be hippies, then so we are. If we want to be radicals, we can be that too. "We", and only "we", have the right to give ourselves labels. Labeling others is just so, just too greedy, man. It's too selfish.

    Do we get anything for calling ourselves "hippies"? Would be nice! I want a jeep! LOL! But if we do, does it affect you in any way? Does it make you better or worse? Does it cause you physical pain? Does it make you bleed? Does it take away anything from anyone? I'll pass on the "warping your brain" piece (and leave that for the congressional hearings on CNN).

    No. After all, it's just a label. So who cares? Why should you care?


    It goes under several different names, but the most common one is "Solar Shower" and it's awesome. Trust me, get more than one. I would rather have two or three of those warming up water for use with bathing (there's one), cleaning up after eating, dishes and the like (another good use) and washing clothes (awesome use, wash cold and rinse hot do the clothes dry faster). Better off using the sun than using a fire, right? I think so.


    I like you already!


    Yeah, like the eco-radicals (my name for them) that preach hellfire and damnation about the use of oil & coal, not realizing the magnitude of the physical influence both groups have on society. Not the people that work there having an influence, but what comes from coal and oil. Those radicals were able to make styrofoam cups some years ago using....corn. And it was calculated that to make a case of those cups it would take just shy of 6 acres of corn, and then the energy and processing to do it. You know something? Great research! Poor idea! I'd rather feed that 6 acres of corn to those that are hungry and can amount to something than a case of foam cups.

    Sad news is as mankind keeps growing, trees will be cut down. Doesn't matter if it's mining, farming, ranching or building homes. It will happen.

    Respectfully,
    Logan 5
    El Presidente' Excelsior Supremo of the Galaxy :eggnog:
     
  9. samson

    samson Hepcat

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    I think you have a very narrow concept of what and who hippies are, and what they do and have done. There have always been hippies, even if the label was only created in the 196Os.


    A very hippie guy once had some good advice for this thread - "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" ;)
     
  10. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    fair enough. I shall receed. :)
     
  11. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    What? lol, I don't know what you think I said but I was born in 1988. I'm not from any era... I just came around in time to watch the last real one (Punk) die a terrible death.

    Now it's all nonsense, and I don't see anything of substance coming from this new generation. I suppose the blame isn't all on them though... they haven't been given much of a chance to think. And for the most part I don't think they even learned how to.

    My little generation was pretty bastardized too, but shit... it wasn't as bad as it's getting now.

    The punk scene was pretty much a louder, angrier, more devided against its self, hippie scene.
     
  12. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    that's exactly how TPTB want it. you just watch. they've engineered the sheeple to move in one big dumb herd.
     
  13. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    Yeah man, and it's working. I mean it's REALLY fucking working this time. I'm terrified...

    Edit: TPTB?

    Figured it out. The powers that be? Yeah, that's it.
     
  14. machinist

    machinist Banned Lifetime Supporter

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    the powers that be :willy_nilly:
     
  15. rollingalong

    rollingalong Banned

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    dazed and confused is set on the exact same day that i went from grade 10 to 11 and it is a good rep of that era...i love that movie

    what are you sam?....Neo?
     
  16. Sam_Stoned

    Sam_Stoned Senior Member

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    I'm just jaded because I don't fit in with any specific click of people. lol :p

    nah, I like it that way though. I hang out with all sorts, the vast vast majority if my friends are nothing like me in any way I can figure out.
     
  17. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    I was talking about good christian values, I don't think being intolerate to gays is part of that, although good may be subjective in the end to every person. I was mentioning this because my mother most likely did gave me these values because she's christian, not because she was a hippie. I will not getting into if she's an actual christian or not, that seems as tricky as defining an actual hippie (I saw both definitions being nitpicked on on these forums). :p
     
  18. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    ^I'm sorry after many years of being told I'm going to hell for my beliefs by many "Good Christians". Told I was a retard because I believe in evolution. Refuse to buy into the concept of fearing the "Being of Pure Love". And looking at the acts of the loudest "Good Christians" and what the term "Christian Values" has come to define in the US it generally puts me on the offensive. I see a lot of hipocracy that there are people who consider themselves "Good Christians" in this country who believe that it is OK to burn a Qua'ran in front of a Mosque but would shit cinder blocks if you burned a Bible in front of their church. Then there are the others that even though they aren't holding the lighter think that it is a just groovy thing to do. Given history the Catholic Church reminds me of the kid who bully's others and then cries and tells the teacher when some kid punches him back.

    There are a lot of "Hippies" who piss me off too though. I call them Parasite Hippies and I've ranted enough on here about them that you know what I'm talking about so I'm not going to reiterate.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  19. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    My error as I misread your year as 1964.
     
  20. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    I'd just give you a hug and tell you that I, as a Christian, love you, as another child of God, in the name of Jesus no matter what.
    I don't care who is gay, though I'm anti-gay. Their choices their lives, not mine and God still loves them. Same with people of other faiths, Muslim and Catholic included.
     

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