Illegal Aliens, Why Let Them In?

stormountainman · Jun 2, 2016

soulcompromise said:

Lest we forget there are lots of ways for migrants and so forth to enter the country legally. At some point it becomes illegal for them to continue doing what they are doing. Perhaps the law says you can live here with a Visa or Greencard or something like that. Those expire though if I'm not mistaken. Once they do they must be renewed, like a library book. It's altogether possible that what we in this thread are referring to as illegal immigrants are in fact documented legal migrant workers. Nothing wrong with that.
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A Green Card is for Permanent Residency...leading to US citizenship after 7 years...if the person wishes to become an American. Many folks who get American citizenship that way end up dual citizens of the US and of their home country.

stormountainman · Jun 2, 2016

drumminmama said:

Having done dirty work for minimum wage (I'm immigrant generation, but from a pale place), I know the conditions my fellow workers were subjected to, conditions I could push back on due to a certificate of citizenship.

Human trafficking is abhorrent. the working conditions, the minimal to no pay (often just enough pocket money to make the person appear independent to outsiders- think able to buy a happy meal- and no guarantee they get that regularly), withholding of identity documents, threats of immigration officers, and generally keeping the people from adapting to life in the host country are violations of a war crime scale.

And in the US, we think enslavement ended in 1865. It never went away, it just went underground and smaller scale.
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Sometimes the poor immigrants have to go to Catholic Charities to get a free hot lunch, because their millionaire employer does not want to give them more money, because he needs to buy another yacht.

Maccabee · Jun 3, 2016

neonspectraltoast said:

I frankly don't see illegals as being that much of a problem. Plus, they're fun to be snooty towards. Even the poorest naturalized citizen can feel superior to an illegal immigrant.
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They ruin our economy by frauding the welfare system. They do not contribute to our society.

Maccabee · Jun 3, 2016

Perfect Disorder said:

Technically all of the founding fathers became illegal when they revolted against Britain seeing as the King claimed the colonies as his own. It would be beneficial to think rationally
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That was by force. They had no choice. The illegals now have a choice. Plus are you to compare the great acts of our founding fathers to people living on welfare?

Maccabee · Jun 3, 2016

TheGhost said:

Cause you white anglo saxon protestant need people who do dirty work for minimum wages.

Sheeeesh.
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I'm not white, not Protestant (nor catholic), and I'm not afraid of dirty work.

Karen_J · Jun 3, 2016

Maccabee said:

They ruin our economy by frauding the welfare system. They do not contribute to our society.
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Prove it, as you like to say to everyone else.

Tyrsonswood · Jun 3, 2016

^^^ I was just going to say that...

TheGhost · Jun 8, 2016

6-eyed shaman said:

Somehow this sounds like a justification for human trafficking. To bring people over to work shitty jobs for minimum wage or less.
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LOLWUT? U no unnerstand sarcasm?

Maccabee · Jun 12, 2016

Karen J said:

Prove it, as you like to say to everyone else.
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Ok.

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