I'm gonna neglect my kids for the internet/video games

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by LuckyStripe, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. crummyrummy

    crummyrummy Brew Your Own Beer Lifetime Supporter

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    rape might be wrong, but so is starving your kids to play dungeons and dragons. since our society simply grounds people from going out when they perform horrible wrongs, sometimes, its up to the fellow convicts to administer punishment.
    Isnt that kinda Kharmic?
     
  2. deviate

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    That might be karma. but since the majority of people in prison are nonviolent, and the majority of those are drug offenses, I think it is a sick twisted system above and beyond retaliation.

    And it does seem pretty sadistic to me to wish forcible rape on someone who didn't forcibly rape someone else, but whatever.
     
  3. Xac

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    No it's FUCKED UP not Kharmic! let me explain a couple of things that are pissing me off right now... i can understand the disgust at these people they fucked up real bad, i know that, you know that.

    But no one gives a damn about how they got that way or what it is like to be that way, as human being i am certain they are suffering badly as it is their own guilt that should be raping them and if it's not what progragitive did they have to do the right thing in the first place? either they did what they believed is best or their mind is fucking rotting away...

    Now i have gotten past that, the next simple points. Our society (Australian or American) may have chosen to only ground people and stop them from going out, well then we have to stick to it... it simply isn't good enough to allow prisoners to get raped and simply wipe your hands clean of it and say kharma did it. No either we grow some fucking balls and administer the punishment ourselves or deduce that, that sort of behavior is not acceptable at any level of society...

    Finally here's what i like to call the kicker, often the rapists are the more fucked up criminal and the victim is often the cuter criminal not the worse one.

    So lets say these people get raped bad, whats that gonna change? maybe they will start raping other prisoner who aren't bad people just made some bad choices, like robbing out of desperation.
     
  4. crummyrummy

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    ok I will eat the rape insults, but I refuse to accept anybody can be so ignorant to think that the majority of prison inmates are non violent. you wanna argue that most Drug Offenders are non violent, I still think yer off. but yet many people that use drugs are in prison, people that grow and smuggle and sell, and yes, use, all knew the rules going in, they were willing to spend time in prison. I am prodrug, but if you use, you gotta understand the rules. I wholly promote people doing what they can to change these rules, but...thats the rules fucker.....
     
  5. Xac

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    So you are pro drugs, you are pro "the rules" and you're all for changing them to? you can't have your cake and eat it, by which i am meaning to ask, are you a violent person who deserves what you have described yourself? have a think about it.
     
  6. crummyrummy

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    get over yourself. I knew the rules everytime I got arrested. the fact I disagreed was irrelevent, I knew what could happen. My opinion doesnt change anything. many here need to learn that lesson.
     
  7. Xac

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    Oh yeah sure, your talking about the 'real world' where people need to grow up and learn the cold, hard facts right? right!

    Well as we have discussed the system used to punish these "offences" doesn't play by the rules do they? no siree... so why should any member of that system obey unjust rules?

    why should unjust laws be allowed to prevail... rules don't make things right. that just a matter of opinion, so no matter what results from breaking rules, is not in itself right or acceptable, it is right because it is or it is wrong because it is.

    (p.s. im talking about drug laws, any one that drops in i am not condoning starving children.)
     
  8. crummyrummy

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    blah blah blah, people go to jail because they think laws dont appy to them usually, in this case they thought there 22 month old child would feed their 11 month old. Let me get this straight, you beleive parents have the right to ignore their childrens needs to the point that they have cat urine dreads. How hippie of you. Cat urine is sterile for a few minutes, maybe the child should have drank it.
     
  9. Xac

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    You say you've been arrested? most criminals try very hard not to get caught because they know the laws apply to them, doesn't make them bad, doesn't make them good.

    Let me put it this way, neglecting your children is wrong and it is illegal, it is wrong as a matter of opinion it is illegal as a matter of law these are two different things.

    I as I have said do not condone this behavior, i think it is a very sad situation and a horrible thing to do. What i am trying to challenge, is that people seem to think that it's ok to lower themselves to the level of fucked up people in the name of punishment.

    It's not ok, it's not kharmic, it's sick and it's sadism and i'm sure that i am no better but you wont hear of me justifying thoughts of rape.
     
  10. crummyrummy

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    forget about me. Do these two deserve to be punished?
     
  11. Xac

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    Punished? who am i to judge what they should and should not suffer? Perhaps some jail time would help them clear their minds and get their priorities straight, i would suggest that what ever happens to be the healthiest option for the children involved would be best, however that is hard to determine.

    I will say that their behavior was deffinatley wrong, but honestly it seems more like sickness then malice, what i do know is they need help.

    Interestingly enough punishment is the least important function of law, public safety, deterrence and rehabilitation rank higher.

    So forget about me, would you sleep better tonight knowing that these people are being raped or would you sleep better if you knew that their children aren't going to be bounced around from orphanage to orphanage, from foster home to foster home?
     
  12. crummyrummy

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    I would sleep better knowing they were being raped, and knowing their kids are better off where they went, getting enough to eat. And that cats were not urinating in their hair.
     
  13. LuckyStripe

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    That is so horrible. What is wrong with some people? And good for you and your daughter for getting out of that situation..
     
  14. Xac

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    Well you're only likely to get one of those come true... sick sick world, i hope it feels right...
     
  15. seizedbyanger

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    that is actually exactly what i was thinking

    that is some pretty fucked up shit my friends
     
  16. LuckyStripe

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    I don't know. I agree with crummy.... call me a bitch- maybe I am and I really don't care. I have NO empathy for people who abuse children, animals, women.... or rapists... none. The justice system is too lenient on many of those people while nonviolent drug offenders sit in prison. Fuck that. I think people that do those terrible things deserve what they get from other people who are disgusted- call it the justice system from the common people that actually delivers punishments at times that fit the crime.
     
  17. LuckyStripe

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    Word up G. :)
     
  18. crummyrummy

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    which one?
    OK I am going to bed now. I agree rape is evil, but so is child neglect. in no more than 12 years those two will be allowed to breed again, I want them to consider how evil what they did is. sorry if I am a romantic like that.
     
  19. LuckyStripe

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    Crum.... you know I'm on your side on this but what I bolded I don't really agree with. I'm not sure if the majority of drug offenders in prison are there for non violent drug charges but I've personally experenced MANY people VERY close to me that got busted in a sting that had never hurt a fly. I also did quite a few research papers in school about the prison system and nonviolent drug offenders. MANY people may be surprized at the actual percentage of the prison population that are there just for marajuana (or other drug) POSSESION.

    There are sooo many cases where the rapist or murderer gets released to make room for possesion cases. It is well documented and I've experienced it first hand.
     
  20. LuckyStripe

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    I'll castrate them for you as well as the rapists. :D

    Same class of scum imo.
     

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