Immigration.

Discussion in 'Stoners Lounge' started by edyb123, Jan 7, 2008.

  1. BraveSirRubin

    BraveSirRubin Members

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    I'm not flaming you. I'm trying to have a discussion with you.

    Why do you get so defensive when your opinions are challanged?
     
  2. Jadesmom810

    Jadesmom810 Lizard Queen

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    Where do you live? We live in CT, and he works in MA. So they take out for both states.

    He's still in the union. He's only laid off for the winter months which is a shitty part of the job.

    He's collecting and working under the table. SO no taxes right now.
     
  3. Jadesmom810

    Jadesmom810 Lizard Queen

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    Because EVERY SINGLE opinion has been challenged. You have been so agressive with me I feel the need to defend myself is all. I really don't care much for arguing like this. I just want to be happy. But you keep saying shitty things about me.
     
  4. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    im 100 miles north of atlanta.

    to be paying union dues and only making 26 bucks a hour just to be laid off a few months every year is pathetic. IMO..

    unions are worthless....
     
  5. BraveSirRubin

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    Is your husband a Mexican?
     
  6. BraveSirRubin

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    While you keep on saying shitty things about Mexicans.

    If you spew ignorance, you will get what you deserve.

    Welcome to the real world.
     
  7. Jadesmom810

    Jadesmom810 Lizard Queen

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    They are, they suck, but his father was in the union, and his brother too so it's a family thing I guess. He could be making 15 dollar an hour more if he wanted to commute to Boston, but that would be too far.

    And no my boyfriend is a white asshole.
     
  8. Jadesmom810

    Jadesmom810 Lizard Queen

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    So what would you call this? You are still calling me ignorant and telling me that I get what I deserve. I don't want to argue with you anymore. I just want to forget about all of this shit.

    Mexicans are fine, I love them, they are beautiful and clean and funny. Okay are you happy now?

    Ps. I'm not STILL saying shitty things about htem.. I'm talking about unions now.
     
  9. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    well im done here.

    just a parting statement. ive worked closely around hispanics for better than 10 years now. i consider many of them to be friends, the community i live in is 30% hispanic,the closest big town is 60% hispanic. i live and work with these folks everyday.

    i feel its my duty as a friend,as a coworker,as someone in there community to stand up for them when people start spewing there stereotypical shit about them..

    and i will continue to do so till the day i die..

    so in a word,if ya dont wanna hear it from me,dont start talkin shit about folks you know nothing about...

    have a nice day..
     
  10. BraveSirRubin

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    The problem with modern unions is that they are too focused on helping the average guy, while they hinder the advancement of someone with real skill in a certain field. Unions also lower the standards for everything.

    I'm pro-unions, but I would truly like to see unions fight for a higher standard of work within its own members. The education system in America is partially fucked up because of teacher's unions which accept mediocrity.

    As the unions improve in standard, the salaries will rise.
     
  11. Stella_Drives

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    I recently learned in a class that the 2 most common last names in the United States now are Garcia and Martinez.

    Our country is changing. You can put your head up your ass, ignore reality and make immigrants your personal scapegoats or you can embrace the change and realize that this country is shifting directions, no matter how you feel about it.
     
  12. st. stephen

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    its not the mexicans fault all u did was guzzle beer in you high school years and u had to drop out. perhaps for once in your redneck life u should take responsibility for your economic short comings instead of blaming it on the "in" race to hate on(blacks, gays, indians, etc). harsh but true. and as for the rich republicans who like to trick southerners into being rednecks, what u dont realize is that these people build the mansions u live in, they pick up the shit from your award winning horse's, they drive u to your parties than they clean up for u afterwards. i actually find it laughable that some politicians actually suggest we send all the millions of back braking labors back to there poverty ridden country, with out thinking that this would have a major impact not only on our work force, but also on our economic situation as a whole. u think our economy could survive that kind of sudden drop off of consumers? probably but it wouldnt be pretty. i think u would also find that these "good jobs" u say they are stealing from americans would remain strangely unfilled. we would find out homes dont get built, stores close and rich ass's go uncleaned. so continue on with your hate mongering, maybe itll even when u an election or two, but it will also win u something u werent expecting. millions of out of work people living in poverty that will do anything to make there family a dime. is this not the kind of conditions that paved the way for al-qaeda? suddenly there really are terrorists crossing our borders, not the make believe ones u use to scare people with, no not them, but real american hating terrorists that want nothing more to destroy the buildings they once proudly built to earn there family a home, and there children an education. jesus people can be ignorant some times.
     
  13. BadPhish

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    Its because Americans can't compete with there prices. They work cheap and long hours and are usually very dependable. My dad is a vice president of a construction company in North Carolina and he says tones of them are coming up and they are always looking for construction jobs.

    I know not all mexicans/immigrants are stealing American jobs. A lot of Americans are simply too lazy to hold jobs and would rather collect food stamps/welfare. The problem i have with immigrants is the free healthcare/education. We need to some how deport them and keep them from getting jobs which would be rather easy if we cracked down on the major companies and actually enforced our own laws rather than making up a couple new ones.

    America disappoints me.
     
  14. BraveSirRubin

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    First of all.

    They don't work for cheap. Construction pays much more tham minimum wage. They do work long hours, because they are real men unlike pussies who whine about working 8 hours.

    Illegal immigrants do not get free healthcare, no hospital will treat a patient without insurance. Why would a free education bother you?

    Also, how would deporting them help anything? Also, how do you plan to deport millions upon millions of people? Who's gonna do their jobs when they're gone? Americans? Yeah right :) Your dad would loose his job if you deport the Mexicans.

    Wouldn't making them all legal be a much better alternative? Then they could all pay taxes and contribute to your oh so wonderful economy.
     
  15. freebird420

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    send theme back.......we have to many as it is
     
  16. freebird420

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    sry....them
     
  17. BadPhish

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    Are you joking me? They work less than minimum wage. They are paid dirt for construction work, why do you think they'd rather have illegals then citizens? Because citizens will demand minimum wage because they are entitled it. An illegal can't because he isn't a citizen!

    Are you serious? No hospital in America can deny a patient. They may have to wait 6-10 hours but no hospital can tell them to leave or deny treatment to anyone. With or without healthcare.

    Because its not free? What do you think part of your tax dollars goes to?

    Population would slow down, our tax dollars wouldn't go to immigrants who don't pay taxes, it would be a much safer/organized community with documented people.
    Simple. First we'd start cracking down on our own laws. We'd stop ignoring the problem and actually fix it without creating 2 more bogus laws. If we actually enforce the laws and penalize major huge corporations who utilize these illegal immigrants we would not only stop the hiring but we'd literally cut them out. They'd go home, they wouldn't have any jobs here and that would mean no money. Then they'd have to go home or just live on the streets and they are all about better themselves so chances are, they'd leave.
    Who do you think did there jobs before they came? Aliens?
    Stop speaking out of your ass, it's irritating.

    Why should we reward people who broke our own laws just to get here? It doesn't really help us out, they already don't pay taxes and don't want to become legal citizens or they'd do that off the bat.
     
  18. freebird420

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    ^ ^
    so true so true
     
  19. mynameisjake07

    mynameisjake07 Banned

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    BadPhish just owned bravesir. Seriouslly this one "Illegal immigrants do not get free healthcare, no hospital will treat a patient without insurance" makes me think that you seriouslly know NOTHING. Did you know that a gun shot wound victim (citizen) when treated in a hospital gets a bill no matter what, yet a gun shot wound (illegal) can have treatment done and bail out afterwards.

    THANKS TO ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS:
    The study estimates that undocumented immigrants ages 18 to 64 cost the health system about $6.5 billion a year.
    http://www.ocregister.com/ocregister/news/homepage/article_1355949.php
     
  20. st. stephen

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    ^and doesnt that just tear u up, that we treated him instead of letting him die in the streets, for shame liberal america.
     

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