Indigo children

Oh well, if ya can't beat em', join em'. ....

I'M THE INDIGO KID!!

... no really, i might be. I was a wierd kid. I'm sold on it!

 

still wee-rrr-d after all these years . hallellujah i'm a bum . i'll sleep in any beautiful place i want to like just here all swoomy in montana along the rattlesnake creek in zoo town

sincerely serene ,
Space Hobo

 

Was and still am weird, but I don't think I qualify for Indigoism - isn't there an age restriction? And anyway I think the dues for this club are too pricey for me.

 

We're gonna make it

 

Ok so we've got indigos. Now are there any Pleiadians or Arcturians or other star beings here ... walk-ins or incarnates, it doesn't matter. Is there anyone here who is actually from this world, never mind all the other ones?
Is there anyone who just feels left out of things and could really do with a cool name to redress the balance?


This way to the galactic federation ---->

<----- That way to council of nine offices

Shamballa is more in that direction again ---->

<---- Actually it's that way

Sananda and the Ashtar Command over here and upwards (just ignore the arrow)
----->

 

this is a fun discussion. honestly zen I'd be surprised if you weren't indigo. and as far as I understand it indigo as the vague label has to do with the quality of soul not so much the abilities of the soul. I'd say fairly obviously you're a "sensitive" of some sort and regardless of whether you're indigo or plaid you're here on a spiritual path of some sort.

and there have been an influx of indigos from the 70's and 80's but that doesn't mean there haven't been any before or won't be any more anymore. Or at least that's my take on it. a lot of the information that "comes through" you have to realize is coming through somebody. every channel is different and we're all channels. so really all the spiritual development that we're doing here is changing the vessel. at essence level we're unchangeable, perfect, beautiful... you know we all pretty much kick ass. in a way you could look at this place as a sort of video game... or job... or school... dream... a myriad of different things but if you look at your life from enough different perspectives you'll find one that makes sense. there's a movie quote from cold mountain that I like... everything's got a job, bird's got a job, shit's got a job, seed's got a job. We're all working together even when it doesn't look like it.

I like to think of life as an interesting dance, almost like an aikido battle or something where you flow and move and twist to see if you can come out clean on the other side.

oh and liquid, I'm arcturian.

and bluesafire I'm glad you made that distinction as well. I am much more of a feeler and a healer than a "psychic". I feel emotion... too much for my liking a lot of the time, way more than I hear thoughts. Thought a lot of the time is on a different frequency for me. I just don't think the same way or am not tuned into the thought radio station enough to pick up on what's going through people's heads... or maybe I just don't pay attention enough... or maybe I pick up on it so much that I think it's my thought??? There are a million ways to spin it. Lately I've been thinking that we're so much of a collective entity that a lot of the thought out there I feel is not singular at all. I think, we think... I am we are... kind of thing. Which is why when we become much more aware of the thoughts running through our heads and then dare to think differently or feel different or whatever why there's some pretty intense backlash from the collective.

and the dismantling thing drives me crazy. I don't try to take things apart... I actually try to keep them together a lot but then everybody's like oooh he'd be perfect for this... and then they try to get me to fit me into this mold and I'm like... ahhh! I can't do it... leave and everything falls apart, like i'm a leg in a three legged stool and I decide to check out the table section of the room. I'm thinking mostly of jobs and relationships on this one.

 

Journeyman ... did you ever read the book 'The Arcturus Probe'? That was a damned good read. If you havn't, you should.
I'll admit i like the sound of being an Arcturean, but back 13 years ago when i had my initial awakening, the Pleiades constellation really grabbed my attention. In my dark night of the soul, feeling stuck in a world i was dissillusioned with and felt alone in, i would look at the Pleiades and how it seemed like a little window in space, a portal, and i longed to be away from the mess and out there somewhere. But back then i didn't really understand mutch about all that cosmic stuff. My awakening was aborted, fear returned, and so buisiness as usual. In the time since it's as if i've been learning to come to terms with my physical earthly life.
But recently something more cosmic seems to be revealing itself again, and it's strange and interesting for me to notice. I was saying last week that i felt i'd 'leveled up' in some way ... like i'd crossed some kind of threshold in awareness which made things different; new thoughts arise and a new understanding taking shape, and with it, ..and i've been a little hesitant to say anything about it, a couple of dreams and a few other clues are pointing towards the idea that i suddenly have a 'lightbody', and this seems to correspond with what i feel is my masculine energy coming to the fore and balancing with the feminine which has been taking shape for a long time. Since the spring, i feel my crown has slowly been opening and with it, without any asking on my part, i seem to be drawn to all this wacky cosmic stuff again. It's wierd, just very wierd. Yet as this is happening, all the earthly stuff is making more sense too.
So i now feel that because that initial awakening didn't happen, it's like i've had to come full circle back to the kind of state i was in prior to that initial time ... to have another crack at it. It's about grounding, ... feeling secure in my physical being and well rooted, so to speak, before the crown can open once more. Now, i can't actually see or feel this 'lightbody' but indications tell me it's there ...and i feel this is definitely connected with the opening of my crown chakra and an increased awareness of my cosmic self.
Now with births and kids and incarnating, i was kinda under the impression that kids needed to grow, get grounded and develop their brains somewhat before their crown could open to further awareness, ...slowly, surely and safely, ... but the idea of indigo kids seems to defy this notion? Perhaps it's something to do with DNA? ...Like the 'package' we pick up from our parents having a pre existing 'potential' ... or not. A potential to 'hold more light' and awareness and channel more energy to begin with?
One notion put forward about a 'shaman' is that of someone who bears the 'karma' of their ancestors and family line. - To work with it and 'cleanse' it and in a physical sense, i could see how 'stabilising and improving' the genetic blueprint you were dealt at birth could reflect this in a physical sense (perhaps metaphysical).
So in short, perhaps these 'indigo children' are just lucky enough to inherit a form and blueprint which is simply more robust and evolved than most?

It's just my best guess on the mechanics of it. Anyone else have any guesses?

 

cool liquid! I actually don't really know anybody from the pleiades, most of my contacts are sirian or something else. lots of atlantian and other ancient celtic memories and stuff... although again with me it's more feeling. if feeling can have a memory. I might check that book out thanks.

I've been dealing with a shit ton of family energies lately. I'm not exactly sure how children come into this reality. I worked at a montessori preschool for a couple years, 2-1/2 to 6 year olds and some of them definitely were what I would call indigo or crystal or magenta... you know that whole spiritual weight kind of kid. One thing that I've noticed is that indigos seem to come into families to break them up. That's happened and happening to me. There's a sense of not being able to tolerate what's happening in and around you. The strength of the indigo will is placed often against convention instead of in line with it. So we get labled as strong willed. I think everybody is strong willed, it's just where you choose to place it.

I'm not so sure about the dna thing as I've had some bad experiences with dna one upmanship stuff, they also threw around indigo as special so I get where some of those who are indigo skeptics. I have experienced a pretty radical difference in my own body, however. Everything that happens to me happens really quickly and I don't get sick the same ways. If I feel sick it means one of two things, I'm either in the process of holding onto a "negative energy" or I'm clearing one out. I haven't been to a doctor in like 5 years because nothing I've had in that time has shown up on any of their tests. So I guess you could chalk it up to an evolving body?

As for family karma or that kind of dna I'm getting schooled in that area lately. it's like the family has it's own energy. and each person typically either fuels or is contained by this energy. it's a boundary that you come into and as long as you operate within the guidelines of what's ok in the family then you're ok. But if you step outside of that then the energy bank of the family is then funneled through whatever member of the family, or members if you're really lucky , and you feel like you have to submit to this energy. As I see it society, religion... you name it, operates under these collective energy forms. So indigos and others who choose say no! and step out. I think with indigos they have to say no or it will kill them. Quite literally if I hadn't said no all the times I did I'd have either died of some illness or killed myself. I simply can't tolerate certain energies.

so right outside of these energy systems I believe is true potential. I see these systems as really the only block to enlightenment and all of that. Our natural state is sheer amazingness and when all of the hindrances to that amazingness are removed... poof! nirvana. or at least that my current running theory. did I answer your question?

 

Oh Lord, you kids have obviously been places I haven't. Pleiadians and Arcturians. Jeezus.

Okay fine. Here I am sipping vodka yet again, and I can't keep my damn mouth shut, so I'll offer something just because it's a piece of the puzzle that I happen to have in my possession, and I'm a stinkin' generous guy who likes to share - right? LOL

There was a woman on this forum some months ago who was a Pleiadian. This woman had the whole "The Secret" thing wired from the the get-go, and what she envisioned with her positive affirmations was contact from actual living beings from the Pleiades.

So think about it. LOL Whuddyathink happened? She was supremely intent on her affirmations, folks - what do you suppose she accomplished after five years of intense envisioning?

She told me in PM that one night, a spacecraft appeared, hovering above her house. It was Pleiadians, and they were telepathically communicating with her as they hovered. She had the chance to go with them, but she decided to stay. The next day her sister phoned her to ask if she saw the starship...



I don't even know what the hell a Pleiadian is. Often I feel like an alien - like this life is my first experience as a human - yet Old Crone has told me I've spent my last few lives in and around orphanages.

I dunno nuthin. No se nada. Ich weiss nichts.

Just throwin it out there. Whuddya think?

 

Well i'm not saying i am a Pleiadian, just that i felt very drawn to the pleiadian constellation 13 years ago at exactly the time i had my death/kundalini/enlightenment/whatever experience. On many nights i'd just stare at it for ages like it really meant something to me... and that was without any knowledge of the Pleiades connection with all this new age stuff. Of course since that time i've read a few books. I never heard Arcturus mentioned but Sirius and the Pleiades are said by a few African and Native American peoples to be the home of their ancestors, ..and thats about all i know on the matter.
But how can this be? How can we be from other star systems? Well i don't know!! - But personally i believe in a holographic model of the universe ... like each lifeform (certainly human lifeforms) contains within it the whole thing. Under our skin is a vast universe ... or something like that. Everything outside us is actually inside us ...and inside we are that one being.

The illusion of physical form is a tricky one to get my understanding around, particularly regarding being born and dying; I'll repeat what Eckhart sais:

"The body does not die because you believe in death. The body exists, or seems to, because you believe in death. Body and death are part of the same illusion, created by the egoic mode of conciousness, which has no awareness of the source of life and sees itself as separate and constantly under threat. So it creates the illusion that you are a body, a dense physical vehicle that is constantly under threat.
To percieve yourself as a vulnerable body that was born and a little later dies - that's the illusion. Body and death: one illusion. You cannot have one without the other. You wan't to keep one side of the illusion and keep the other, but that is impossible. Either you keep all of it or you relinquish all of it.
However you cannot escape from the body, nor do you have to. The body is an incredible misperception of your true nature. But your true nature is concealed somewhere within that illusion, not outside it, so the body is still the only point of access to it."

And:
"Nothing is what it seems to be. The world that you create and see through the egoic mind may seem a very imperfect place, even a vale of tears. But whatever you percieve is only a kind of symbol, like an image in a dream. It is how your conciousness interprets and interacts with the molecular energy dance of the universe."

And:
"An infinite number of completely different interpretations, completely different worlds is possible, and in fact, exists - all depending on the percieving conciousness. Every being is a focal point of conciousness, and every such focal point creates it's own world, although all those worlds are interconnected."

.... so to me and my tiny understanding, putting all this together tells me that i am a focal point of everything out there... which is really in there but projected externally in an illusionary form creating my reality, and somehow, perhaps, some star or collective of stars has some important bearing on the identity or meaning of my holographic reality. Again, something like that!

So Zen, this woman and her pleiadian spacecraft? ... bearing in mind Eckharts " ..how your conciousness interprets and interacts with the molecular energy dance of the universe." ... i guess she could see whatever she percieved and if the pleiades exist within, then she saw some representation of that without ... the solid physicality being an illusion of mind just like everything else? Thats my best guess again

Wierd though eh?!

 

I can relate to this very much.

And I relate to this too. It's extremely rare for me to ever go to a doctor or to even get sick for that matter. But when it happens I'm clear that something is processing. Recently I've had a few headaches... and I could tell something was moving through me. So I just did EFT or Reiki and also asked my guides to help out and usually they disappeared quickly afterward.

This is so true. It really feels like a life or death choice... an intolerable condition that HAS to evoke a choice from integrity and then acting on that.

I agree. Removing of hindrances. That's what it's all about. There's nothing to add to oneself, nothing to improve really. It's just about removing the blocks to awareness.

 

I completely agree with this. Eckhart is great! I wrote something related to this recently on a different thread:

Ultimately bodies are not needed for communication, but most of us aren't accessing the ultimate. So communication via bodies (language, thought, writings, spoken word) is practical in the short term, in this stage of awareness. That doesn't mean it requires ego (identification with a mind-made sense of self) to utilize such communication. If that were the case then enlightened masters would never have spoken or communicated a thing. The whole premise of enlightenment is that there is no longer ego identification. When everyone awakens we may no longer need to manifest bodies (illusion of separation) in order to commune with one another. In the meantime... whatever works to promote awakening will be utilized. It's marvelous really... the stuff of the dream is used in order to awaken.

 

But surely it is our bodies, our form (physical/energy/light) which defines 'one and another'? ...without bodies of any form there would be no 'other'. I see nothing wrong with having a body ... illusory or otherwise, but we DO need to know it's nature .. that it is ultimately an illusion. Then we can create and play and live in this drama whilst being 'free' of it and know and love eachother as ourselves without fear.
We already do communicate with eachother without using speech and gesture, ... thats part of what being psychic is. Speech and gesture are an outer 'symbol' of that communication that is already happening. Awakening to our formless nature and seeing through the illusion of form is simply realising that we don't need those symbols anymore... that we are not attatched to the reflection anymore. We realise the mirror is exactly that ... a mirror, and we lose our fear of our own reflection as that of 'another'.

 

EXACTLY!

Really look at this statement, liquidlight, just hold it a moment and let it sink in what is really conveyed here. (Although here I'd like to distinguish between forms and energy... there is a distinction. I believe that energy is experienced in both an individualized and a collective way... simultaneously.)

There is nothing WRONG with having a body. It's not a matter of right or wrong, it's a matter of real and illusion, true and false. The body has a relative truth... in the world of form, yes it's true. We can see it, feel it, so in this realm it would be absurd to say it doesn't exist. But from a different perspective, from the point of view of the Essence... which is beyond form... (and like you said) then no it's not true and no, it doesn't exist.

As it says in A Course In Miracles, we can allow our perceptions to be corrected to the point where we can manifest a happy dream. After that at some point we will realize we no longer have need of dreaming. And of course... let us play and create and not take this dream so seriously! The whole point being... are we IDENTIFIED with the dream, with the forms (including bodies)? It's very easy to deceive ourselves here and intellectually grasp that "this is an illusion" while living our lives as if it's real. It's a constant self-reflection and a reality check. The ego is incredibly tricky and will lure us in at every opportunity, often in very subtle ways. We must be vigilant to its workings.

I absolutely agree with you here. Yes we do communicate and commune with one another. We're already ONE beneath the surface. There's a whole world of communication that flows there. The only things is.... most of us aren't aware of it. Most people have turned off their intuition and ability to detect this inner realm. And then they rely heavily on words and forms and the intellect... which always dissects and separates and never grasps anything in a wholistic way, like intuition does.

Yes, absolutely.

 

Yes and this leads to people taking eachother literally 'to their word' all the time, instead of allowing for the limitedness of words and reading between the lines a little to the message they are actually trying to convey. For example, when i say 'wrong', i'm aware that it's limited and that someone will most likely jump on it and say "There is no right or wrong." or as you said, "It's not a matter of right and wrong.".... it's just that myself not being hugely intellectual and scholarly, i couldn't think of a better word to use and kinda hoped people would read between the lines a little AND NOT TAKE MY WORDS SO LITERALLY.

 

I think it's especially challenging to sense meaning on discussion boards and very easy to misunderstand or not get the full intent. Sometimes it's easier than other times. Like in this particular case, I couldn't necessarily sense that you meant otherwise. On the other hand, you described a universal belief which was helpful to address, even if it wasn't completely applicable to you personally.

 

I actually don't find message boards so challenging in that sense, i can still use my intuition. Written or spoken makes not mutch difference. It's still about not getting hung up on the words themselves, because when we listen we are litening to the whole meaning and not just the individuated parts. The individuated parts (words) come from the whole meaning and not the other way around. For instance ... when 'the light' spoke to me, it didn't string out a linear sequence of words, but rather the meaning as a whole was already conveyed and my own rational mind is what then broke it down into words so it could make sense of it.

It's a strange revelation realising one can talk to oneself telepathically

 

I understand what you mean. Maybe some people can do this easier than others, especially ones that have psychic ability. I find it's very easy for misunderstandings on one level or another to slip in there, on the internet. Usually it's our own ego filters that set up these barriers. Also, for me personally, I may read someone's energy "correctly" but don't always have full clarity about the words they use or the full meaning and intent behind those words.

And then there's the other phenomenon that occurs sometimes... where someone claims they're misunderstood when in fact they're deceiving themselves about what's really going on. LOL!

And then (no "and then!" )... sometimes a response just comes independently of the "individuals", and the analytical mind wants to come in and dissect how this applies personally, when in fact it was never meant on a personal (individual) level at all.

There are so many perspectives... sometimes they just swim together, float in and out of one another, converge and dissipate. Taking it all in wholistically... and also recognizing that they're all just perspectives... is kinda amazing to experience.

 

I think perhaps what we're both understanding here is that a deep connection with the source allows one to see, or rather feel deep within ourselves to the truth thats already there, and in a conversational sense it's like truth talking to itself ie. that internal dialogue we have with someone when we talk to them ... and the words just carry it along and either match the internal dialogue ... or not, and if not, either they or myself is not being honest with themselves ... or perhaps just really struggling to explain something deep and complicated and aren't quite hitting the mark.
I'm sure folks here have had conversations with people sometimes where we've understood exactly what they're on about and getting at before they're even a quarter way through explaining. ... because we're listening within and using all our communicative faculties.

For a month or so now i've been taking Eckharts advise and focusing a part of my awareness (as mutch spare as i have) on my inner body and feeling it as a vibrant energy field. Focusing within and feeling. In this way he sais you can be 'always in touch with god'. Like a constant reference point for everything you think and do.
I've had some good experiences with it. It seems to raise my hitch hiking 'lift getting' success rate ... but also just remembering to be present and intentionally and internally communicate with drivers and catch their eye as they approach.
Also recently i had a difficult conversation with my boss at work, ..and shes known as a bit of a shrewd dragon too ... difficult because she was lying to me and trying to kid me that they had thought i was part time when i was full time contractually from the start ...and they wanted to give me a part time contract. So i managed to take it cheerfully (although it not being what i wanted at all), and also tell her that it was no mistake ... and actually took a telling off tone slightly, and still cheerfully ...basically to tell her i had noted she was lying. Anyway she actually humbled and softened, i accepted the new contract (heck, we're all in it together at work, and i'm trying to practice non resistance and go with things. I'm still gonna be doing full time hours anyway!). So our meeting went really well and she added that i was a valued and liked member of staff ect so everything was ultra cool. So i felt afterwards that being internally aware conciously during our meeting, i had said everything i needed to, just right, and remained undefensive and calm.

So i really like this internal focus right now. With a little quiet you can indeed feel the buzz and hum, stillness and depth and vibrancy of your inner being and energy field.
Actually i'm feeling/noticing, ... i have an inkling that by doing this you can strengthen your energy field.

 

Yes words are very limited in capturing the full meaning, and this really can't be done exactly through words. I often realize, just as soon as I speak of one perspective then 5 more pop up, all different and all equally (and relatively) true. And even when describing one perspective, it's often difficult to put it in words. That's why at some point people realize that they shouldn't get so fully wrapped up in words and feel & intuit instead... look beyond the words. But even as we start to do this more... ego can come in at any point and delude us.

At times I'm told by someone who thinks he or she can intuit meaning that they've understood what I said, when I get a clear sense that they don't. I have no doubt that some people had that impression when I spoke to them as well. Who's right? Who's wrong? Somewhere the channel isn't clear. And then it's always up to each and every one of us to look within and seek clarity there. I've had people contact me after much time had passed and tell me that what I had once shared finally made sense. And in the same respect, I've had similar experiences... where I realized way later, that what I originally saw as an error, turned out to be accurate after I saw it in a new light.

Yes and I've experienced this as well.

That's really cool LL... yeah I bet you could strengthen your energy field this way. I love Eckhart. He's been a huge influence (and now I'd say my primary one) for several years now. I listen to his audio recordings several times a week and practice silence and inner body awareness constantly and it's had a profound impact.