infinity

ididn't read the whole thread. But i think its just experience.
As human, when we're sober, we know we'll die someday. But when you're on a egodeath (on lsd or special k)trip you experience eternity. Even if it last seconds in the "real" world, you know you attained godliness

 

The declaration 'there is no infinity' does not make sense to me. How could you possibly know that. PI has been calculated to the fifty billionth decimal place without repeating, do you think it eventually will? To me 50 000 000 without repeating makes me lean towards it never doing so.

Gecko, just because you cannot comprehend eternity, which I can very easily, and you have not seen proof of the existance of Spirit, which I have seen over and over, enough times that atheism is hard for me to swallow as being a sincere position to take. Still, I accept it as valid and true for atheists, I just cannot comprehend someone not seeing at least a few miracles, since I have seen dozens.

To me, eternity and Spirit are more real than mountains.

 

Pi is a mathematical concept. Math is a human language.

Language only approximately describes something. Your inability to resolve Pi is a mathematical limitaion, not a real one. A circle can be drawn, even though you can't accurately calculate it.

And I'm not an atheist- you make too many assumptions.

There is no infinity.

 

they change form

 

And I'm not an atheist- you make too many assumptions.

Gecko, I apologize, I equated Spirit with infinity. So you believe in Spirit, but you do not believe in infinity? I really only meant to point out that I cannot comprehend atheism any more, so I apologize, it was not intentional.

I cannot state that there is infinity with the same conviction that you state there is no infinity. I strongly believe, and feel I have seen plenty to convince me of infinity, but I cannot say, There is infinity.
I have faith in many things, but, just cuz I believe them does not make them so, and though I would be surprised to find out, I may one day say there is no infinity.
That would have nothing to do with you, though, as it is clearly a truth for you right now.

 

there are infinite possibilities, meaning all things are possible, infinite relative realities or combinations...one example would be television, they have conveyed the same bullshit message countless times in countless different forms... and i dont understand how one could know or say if spirit is infinite or not either, unless one has some sort of cosmic mystical experience, in which case i dont think the cosmos would tell you that you have an expiration date, it just does not seem as likely that we or the universe is finite to me... and that were all contained in this little square that only goes from point a to point b, just doesnt click well with me or make very much sense, and im all about some making sense(most of the time anyway)...

i personally have had some strange exepriences which are just too odd to pass off as coincedence, and to keep believing that there is no higher force or being maybe thats behind all of these vast endless complex connections... and that there is nothing after this life, some of which people would not believe or just say it was in my head. this is what i dont like about religions god, they tell you what is right, i think we have to find out for ourselves and see it for ourselves... and you cant just see or feel stuff like that right away, we have to wait for some things as humans.

i hope i am not the only one who sees the contradiction in that, Gecko, i thought you would have dug on some infinity being the mushroomhead you are, maybe some stuff to think about on your next dive into the collective unconcious...

 

FEELING infinity and being able to point to an indepedent example of it are two different things.

The feeling requires human presence; and I'm not prepared too say that human presence is all that important to existence as a whole. Can something exist indepedently of humans and be depedent upon them for it's existence at the same time?

But out there- out side your head-

There is no infinity. The Nature of Reality precludes it.

 

i believe both, everything has a beginning and end, as well as some things never ending just change shape. like when a person dies they shape shape, nut their spirit lives on

 

I don't understand you, Geckopelli. The point about infinity being precluded.
I look at infinity as being the acknowledgement that for all intents and purposes, many things will exist forever, or continue without end, or cannot change. That is my view.

 

Please inform me of the nature of reality that precludes infinity.