Iraq War Vet Shoots Five, Kills Ranger, on the Lam in Nat'l Park

I resent the part of the article that mentions that congress lifted the ban on loaded guns in national parks, amid concerns about whatever. This guy was obviously not just hanging out there following the law, he was on the run after a shootout, he didn't just decide to murder a park ranger because the law let him have a loaded gun in the park.

In fact, this situation seems like a great reason to let law abiding citizens carry loaded weapons in parks.

 

That is a very moving clip. Glad you made it back.

 

Come on now I’m sure you took out your frustration and anger on the occasional Patriot or Hawk surface-to-air-missile system

Hotwater

 

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But I Have Never Met A Man As Colourful As "Squirrel Boi"....

Just When I Think I Have You Sussed Out, You Go And

Add Another Chapter, And Poor GLEN Has To Start All

Over Again...



Cheers Glen.

 

What gun is that he is holding with his right arm? Fuck dude thats some serious shit, look at the mag alone..jesus

 

This guy was really brilliant, when they found his frozen body he was wearing jeans, a tee shirt and one sneaker....... Ummm, dude! 2 feet of snow....... Mountains! Cold! You know? Cold? Dumb shit.

Okay what I said was not totally fair, US military screwed this guy up, then gave him mind melting meds to shut him up. About the time he realized his brains were leaking out of his ears he probably quit his meds cold turkey.... you can't quit those meds cold turkey. (I know, I did it, I had no choice.) So it's not all his fault, but where's the intervention, where's the help he should have had. You also shouldn't have these kinds of weapons when you are in this kind of shape. There are laws on the books about weapons under disability. This guy had an arsenal and they knew about it..... nobody saw this coming?

 

Im not sure its a browning automatic rifle or an auto loader shotgun., Im thinking auto loader. Just cant get a cleaner pic on it.

 

It looks like a 12gauge with a tatical choke and something to make it full auto with some kind of AR mag that holds slugs.

man im thinking wtf...

 

12 Gauge Auto That Has Been Modified To Accept A Rather Large Clip...



Cheers Glen.

 

The choke does not look that of a normal 12 unless it came from a tatical weapon before.

 

This isn't the first time or the last time this is going to happen. It absolutely breaks my heart. This soldier likely spent most of his adult life killing and watching his friends being killed. He comes home to SUVs with yellow ribbon stickers on them, a slap on the back in the airport by veterans of the "greatest generation", No one there to train him how to deal with the petty and frivolous shit he was likely faced with as soon as he walked in the door of whatever form "home" took. His girlfriend/wife/mother just can't comprehend how he could not give a shit less about who won "dancing with stars" or how bad her day at work was, because when he closes his eyes at night he's thinking about the death, lifelong drama and mayhem he trudged through day after day and doing his best to work out some meaning for it all and asking himself why he made it home, when better men than he, didn't.

There's a veteran of Panama in a small town where I work. He's very ill, very traumatized. The ladies in my office all make fun of him, basically view him as the village idiot. Ah but they'd get all misty and patriotic whenever one of their friend's sons come home from Iraq. And their heart pours out and they get all dewey over an episode of "Army Wives". They stand up and wave their flags when the sheriff's department and the fire department escorts them, parade style, home. Makes em feel all warm and fuzzy. But they blush when the "village idiot" comes running and marches uninvited with the VFW boys with his long stringy hair, nervous tics and strange outbursts - but everyone of them voted for Reagan and Bush and Bush and Bush. I wonder what they'll think if/when one of the blue-eyed boys they know starts becoming symptomatic, beats the shit out of his girlfriend/wife, his mom or his dad some night - or worse.

Here's a quote from the wife of my best friend after his last tour in Iraq on a well known social networking website:
"OMFG. Grown men pouting is annoying. Yes. . . My husband."

I hope he never sees it.

 

Indeed Skip and when they wake up and realise what they have done,THEY CANNOT HANDLE IT

 

When you dont interact with the people n the ground and you kill them from far away somewhere. Its a fucked up thing to do. But I was engaged with people on the streets, we see friendlys all the time. When on patrol in Iraq its just like regular everyday life and then all the sudden some gangbangers jump out at your ass. No, It really is. Because everyday life goes on around you in Iraq. There is still a civilian population going to work, doing business, just like any other city. Its not like its an empty battle field in the middle the desert. You can buy tshirts and sun glasses, trade shit with the locals. Its some fun times really..

There is the charge of intentional damage to military property .. Wouldn't want to do that.. atriot:

Im wiser than I pretend to be... :daisy:

 

you cant ,I have PTSD, i left Angola in 1983 and i still have nightmares about it , been in and out of counciling you over 25 years , nothing helps .The army kills you- maybe not right away but you still die a little inside everyday.

I have some really serious issues concerning it .

The worse incident recently for me was at a work party of all things , they took us to a paintball range, i was on bar duty , and i saw one of my guys was given a camo jacket , him standing there in that jacket with this "rifle" he looked just like a SWAPO terr ... i freaked .

 

The military takes innocent boys and turns them into cold blooded killers. Good Job USA!

Cannon Fodder....Thats all they are to the military

 

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Stops Them In Their Tracks Every Time...:2thumbsup:



Cheers Glen.

 

This thread depresses me and pisses me off at the same time...I am pissed off at how fucked up the world seems to be. And since I have PTSD from someone getting shot at my school when I was in highschool I kinda know how that feels. Though probably on a lesser scale because I did not see what happened since I was in a different classroom. So yeah it depresses me that the government is willing to put people just out of high school at risk for that and severe physical injuries for what seems to be no real reason other than the endless quest for more power and wealth. Why don't the politicians go fight their wars themselves instead of coercing people just out of highschool with a whole life ahead of them to go do it for them? Then they wonder why some of them go over the edge? I've come close to that just trying to survive in this sick society. So I cant even imagine how much more difficult it would be to keep control if I actually killed people, saw people all around me being killed ect.

 

This is such a sad situation

As someone who works at National Parks sometimes the thought of some of people I have seen visiting parks carrying weapons scares the crap out of me. I am pretty sure that the average person's IQ drops about 50 points the second they go on vacation and they no longer have any judgement or common sense.

I feel like some of the crazies that have yelled at me about the price, or that the fact that they encountered actual nature, or whatever, would have shot me if they had had a weapon. Seriously, people get crazy at National Parks and lose all control.