Is Education A Big Scam?

tell them it's more modest and meaningful.....

 

Many are the tales of people who became rich and were still miserable. In fact, I don't think humanity experiences exceptional highs and lows. We're all just stuck being human, no matter how much or how little we have. Maybe having a lot will help you delude yourself more, but in the end you're just the very smallest thing.

When I think of the richness of our conversations vs. what I imagine the billionaire class discuss, I feel fortunate that I'm not so wealthy. I feel like the camaraderie of the lower classes is more meaningful. So I think there is an upper limit as well. A point where you can have anything in the world, and you're miserable because none of it gives you any greater degree of joy than you can experience without. Moments of true joy are fleeting for us all, no less so for the rich than for the poor.

 

So not making a lot of money or having a college degree automatically equates to being homeless?

 

How in the heck do you get that from YOUR words???
what a weak and lame attempt to be clever
in answer to your question, NO, just as making less money does not equate to a more meaningful life.
by your lame logic, those folks should be as happy as pigs in shit because they have no money.


LOL, you really could benefit from further education.

 

that's code for "we're going to hire our nephew."

 

University worked out really well for me, and all my buddies from university are doing pretty well for themselves as well.

 

So How Did You Move From A Uni Course To The Fire Service...???...



Cheers Glen.

 

I didn't.

I started in the logging industry as a faller and when I decided to go back to university I worked for the fire service during the summers and commercial falling during Christmas breaks.

After I finished university, I moved abroad for work. That was about six years ago - time flies

 

Yeah I see your point but the thing is it was found that people studying to become school teachers aren't very intellectual. Most people studying to get a teaching diploma or going on to get a master's degree in education typically have unimpressive intelligence scores. I mean no disrespect to people of low intelligence as according to my standardized test scores I have a fairly low intelligence as well.


If most school teachers are of average at best intelligence with no particular talents it shouldn't be a surprise that schools are producing mediocre and untalented graduates. So I would put at least some of the blame on the teachers most of whom are paid a nice salary with plenty of benefits.

 

The only people strongly speaking out against education are those who seem to have little. How have they earned credibility on the subject? I see nothing there but jealousy and hard feelings.

 

Education is it's own reward.

While there's no limit to what a committed autodidact can learn, there's defiantly an advantage to having instruction by subject matter experts. And depending on the field, I would totally hire someone who had years of experience in engineering without a formal degree to be able to design something. However, I would never go to a surgeon who had never been to medical school.

As for whether it's worth it financially? Depends on the field. I make significantly more than the income of the average doctorate holder, and I dropped out of high school. Statistically however, you're in much better shape with a degree, and it'll help open a lot of doors.

Pressed Rat does make a persuasive argument. There are a lot more important things than money. And money is fundamentally imaginary.

 

So I find this chart rather suspect. The GRE examines one type of intelligence which is the ability to retain information. IQ tests on the other hand, are generally much more focused on cognitive intellegence; problem solving and ability to learn, meaning the preparation for such a GRE would influence your scores, where preparation for an IQ test would not.

In other words the assumption is flawed. It just shows that physicists score better on the GRE.

 

Well, it seems like being successful in college is based primarily around regurgitating information and indeed relies on GRE scores more than any other area of intelligence. It seems like cognitive intelligence and problem solving doesn't really factor much into being successful in college. College does not really engage a person's higher critical thinking skills.

 

and how many years did you attend college that causes you come to this conclusion?


in other words....HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU KNOW?

 

we need porkstock to chime in, he's earned a PHD and has some REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE to back up his opinion on the topic.

 

Two years of community college and one year of uni.

 

may I ask what your field of study was and why you quit?

for me it was what at the time called "psychobiology" which was essentially neurology as it relates to behavior. it is now known as behavioral neuroscience.
I quit because I had to care for my ill mother and couldn't commit to the 6 years it would take to earn a B.S. At the time the University of California Irvine (UCI) was the only college on the west coast that offered it and the requirements for admission to that program were grueling, that's why it would have taken 6 years instead 4, 2 at community meeting the prereqs and 4 at UCI.
Then life happened, $$$ and the opportunity drifted away.

 

I went to school for a bit. Didn't know what I wanted to do so I stopped going. Didn't wanna waste anymore money or time.

 

I don't do well in a classroom setting the choice to not go was easy for me.