Is Hoffman The Modern Day Christ?

Hey man, it's under the topic of enlightenment, and if it gets people thinking, let's keep it rolling!

 

i think that floydianslip6 is actually being serious... pass me some popcorn!

he can't seem to help himself - he keeps coming back for more!

 

I dont like popcorn, only unenlightened people eat that junk.

 

If it's got cheese on it it's ok, the artificial colors and flavors open your mind to the 5th dimension.

 

that's true... my wife and i actually stopped eating any type of junk food a few months ago... seriously though - its the truth!


now we eat only fruits and fruit juices for our sugar fix. no more of those potato chips and popcorn either. i am sure we still have a way to go with our diet but eliminating junk food was a good step for sure!

 

You mean, where light exists without matter? :tongue:
The crystalization of those higher frequencey vibrations really gets my minds eye watering

 

On a related note, debate is one thing... but in this case you've both figured out everything for yourselves, you're not giving or taking any points from one another.... plus this is the LSD forum.

But yea, I was kinda being serious... I'm curious to see where you go. Hopefully this time around in the debate a dictionary isn't necessary

 

Well I was actually referring to where matter exists without light.

I like that... "minds eye watering"

 

Yea I don't really eat any junk food either, I've never been a huge fan. Gave up soda, tv, microwaves, AC and cable a while ago too. It's amazing how small changes in ones lifestyle can make big differences... well in their overall lifestyle.

 

Yea sorry I put the words in the wrong spectrums of the sentence. Except you see this is impossible, being the existance itself is composed of light. Only it's not the same kynd

 

if people didn't suggest that our understanding of enlightenment is wrong we wouldn't have to show them that the dictionary actually agrees with us.

after reading what the dictionary says about the word enlightened it is easier to understand where we are coming from. take the word out of religious context and our understanding does not seem so strange.

after all what do you think dictionaries are for? as far as i was aware dictionaries define the words that people use so that we understand what we are communicating. if two people have two different definitions to a word the communication will naturally break down.

pointing out that our understanding of what it means to be enlightened matches the definition in the dictionary should help people better understand where we are coming from.

if you look up enlightenment in the dictionary you will see that it defines the word in a few ways. the first meaning - The act or a means of enlightening. the third meaning is - Buddhism & Hinduism A blessed state in which the individual transcends desire and suffering and attains Nirvana. so even the definition in the dictionary can be taken to mean different things. enlightenment can be the process of becoming enlightened or the final state where one transcends desire and suffering and attains nirvana. basically what going to dictionary dot com does is show us that we are both right. the dictionary was used in hopes to end a needless debate. an interesting debate that does not need to go on and on.

 

I can't believe I just read all that. You guys can post a lot in two days.

 

phew!



great reading!!!

 

You're right 3xi, just the other day I was trying to decide if I was in love or not. Good thing for me I had my handy dictionary. Turns out I am.

 

I know one thing for sure, more I discovered and learned, I could say more easy: "I don't know"
As I said in one of my posts, it is too simple to be understood or said.

 

Well, whatever spiritual riches you think LSD may be able to deliver unto you, it definitely doesn't make you any smarter, or prevent you from sinking as low as the person who authored this thread, and it definitely didn't prevent the other burn-outs from agreeing.

Sorry for the insults (well, not too sorry), but seriously, if you think you can put a chemical into your brain and that's all it takes to know how the universe works, then you're kidding yourself. LSD is no more than another bourgeois amusement, almost as spiritual as masturbation.

In fact, comparing some chemist to Jesus is offensive, stupid, ignorant and wrong in so many ways I can't even explain them, because if they're not already obvious to you they never will be.

 

firstly--no one was saying lsd vs jesus here--i was asking questions--that's what this forum is about--healthy discussion. the night i posted this thread i was on another thread where a member said that for him lsd is his christ. if that is what he feels who am i to judge? but it did get me thinking. i don't claim to believe lsd is christ (for me) but i do ask the question if its possible. if you find it so terrible a thread maybe you shouldn't be here.

i have learned that lsd brings out whatever is already there. if you are spiritual, then lsd will be spiritual. if you find lsd as spiritual as masturbating then we can easily conclude at from what resonance you approaching this.
many of us on this forum are spiritual people who enjoy spiritual dialogue as it pertains to our lsd experience. sometimes the questions or concepts are a bit far-out but no less worthy than any other issue or concept we have debated.

the nastiness in your tone screamed volumes at the love-less vibe you put out in the world. most here if they disagree with a post at least have the intelligence to respond as to why they disagree or to share their understanding of a concept without the pompous ass hole vibe you are lashing out with.

i am asking, wondering, growing, evolving, learning just like everybody else here on the planet. only love here brother

 

Why should anyone take your bad trip?

your post cries out nothing but "someone explain nirvana to me in a way that will make me listen"

 

lol good post mara-aum!

 

if you think that you are in love or that you will ever be in love this life time you are fooling yourself. love is not something that you can find so easily. i suggest you check with your definition one more time because judging by your posts in this forum i would say that you are not capable of love....lol... just kidding..

actually this brings me to a good point... when it comes to the word love i think that it is used by people who are not capable of feeling it completely all the time. my mother says that she loves me and in some way i know that she does but because of her inabilities to love and accept herself she falls short when it comes to loving anyone else. she is closed off and detached from everyone - she is not always honest and she is very cold. yet she thinks that she loves me and in a way i guess that she does but really she has no idea how far from true love she is. i believe that a person must be completely honest before they are able to love completely. there are so many people who do not understand this that we have a society made up of two faced liars saying 'i love you'. i guess the point is that they feel some sort of connection that is strong enough for them to consider it love and in many ways i would agree that they are probably in love but not fully or as complete as it could be if they were a good enough person to love themselves completely first. in many ways i feel like love and enlightenment go hand in hand and just as i feel that enlightenment is a journey so is love. there are many different forms and expressions of the word love and i feel like it is all a part of that force but not everyone is in a place in their life where they are able to feel love in its true and complete form. there are many things that someone has to learn about themselves and life before they are capable of loving to the fullest.

there have been times when i told my mother that she didn’t really love me and all that did was push her further away. when i understand and appreciate what she is trying to say we both benefit. my mother is stuck in her ways and thinks that she has done everything she could do as a mother when in fact she has failed in so many ways. it is her life to live how she chooses and if she wants to believe such crap than fine by me. all i can do is say something and love her anyways. now i know better than to say that i don't think that she is capable of loving me. i know that she loves me and that she did the best she could but i feel like she could have done better and i make sure that she is aware that she still has time to change or learn if she wants to - but i do this very subtly so that i do not upset her - like i said she is very stuck in her ways. if only she could understand what i do. i realize that i am learning and growing with everyday. i am always open to become a better person. if she was this kind of person i would have a much easier time with my mother. as long as we are walking towards the light of a better tomorrow we are on the right track. it is when people think that they have learned all they need to and are never going to change for anyone that we run into problems but still we must love and accept them.