Is Hoffman The Modern Day Christ?

food of the gods by terence mckenna argues that soma was psilocybe cubensis

 

thank you-thank you-thank you!!! that was GREAT AWESOME reading. i'm convinced! it makes sooooooooo much sense!

 

First of all, I didn't bring up the word 'schizo', I was just repeating what the other person had said. Also, I'm well aware of the fact that there are all kinds of mental disorders of varying severity-- but I happen to know that there are cases of schizophrenia where people get so wrapped up in themselves and their delusions that they neglect the basic concerns like eating. I'm not talking about vegetables or comatose people, I'm talking about people who don't even realize that they're starving to death because they think they're being tested by God or something. But I really don't care what you think about that, or if you're one of those 'they just think differently' people, or if you'd take your friend to a guru instead of a doctor if it happened, because that's not my point.

Second, I'm not the only one making assumptions because it seems everyone seems to have my politics, my lifestyle, my attitude towards the world all figured out as well. But anyway, that's not my point. Again.

I'm all in favour of broadening your horizons. By all means, I support anyone who wants to discover everything the world has to offer. Study religions, travel, read, meditate do whatever. That's not my point. AGAIN.

I'm not American and if I was I wouldn't vote for George Bush. I don't like war or fighting or oil. I don't drive a car and I probably never will. There are heaps of things in the world that I like, but none of them have anything to do with drugs. It has nothing to do with having had a bad trip or a bad experience, I just think it's irresponsible. But then again, who cares who I am-- I'm sure that none of you do. That's not my point. AGAIN.

I guess I did come off as a little nasty in the beginning, and really I probably shouldn't have-- maybe that's my fault for not holding my frustrations in check, especially since all that it did was provoke all this hostility and all this nitpicking and speculating and you said this and you meant this and other bullshit that comes with the whole cut-and-paste phenomenon of internet quoting.

My point is: it's ridiculous when someone equates real discovery/spirituality/ religious awakening with the taking of a DRUG. Because to me, it sounds like most people here is thinking that it's the be-all end-all and just by doing it you're automatically on a higher level than people who don't do it. No, that does not mean everyone. But it just seems like some people are living out this really cliched and banal notion of what it means to be spiritual, and then using it as some kind of ego trip wherein they are somehow more 'awake' than non-users.

So no, I don't object to your doing LSD, it's the high-and-mighty attitude. It's comparing it to God, or talking about how great someone is for inventing it, revering it as if it were the greatest thing ever. This bothers me because it's not such a struggle to do it, and because from all the nastiness put forward by you after my 'attacks', it certainly doesn't seem to have made you any wiser, more moral or more willing to take the high ground (no, following up your attacks with some loopy cliche like 'peace and love to you' does not mean you're somehow redeeming yourself or that you didn't feel anger or hostility just didn't want to admit it). Really, you're the same as everyone else, and by that I mean normal people-- taking a drug doesn't change that fact.

I have traveled to monasteries and temples throughout Asia and mostly the monks I meet work very hard and live very strict and very disciplined lives. They dedicate every waking moment of their life to the pursuit of their goal, and structure their lives around it. What they don't do is do whatever they want, read some Eastern mysticism, then pop some square of paper into their mouth and wait. To me, that seems very much like a MacDonald's fast food kind of spirituality.

Anyway, I'm definitely done arguing. You can go on and on about how it's all subjective and it's good for some people not for others and all that and just let whatever happens happen.

 

Yea I agree completley with that idea. I really need to get this book, or at least start reading more of his concepts because I find that from what little I've read by the guy that it rings true to me, reverberates in my soul like the word Nirvana and the word Samadhi as if it is our human nature to always have known these state's of perfect blissful consciousness but for reasons attributed to karma need to rediscover them time and time again :tongue:
I've read something by him about the source of magic mushrooms belonging to some alien colony blown in to us from space, and in a roundabout way I agree. But the word alien tends to bring such limited connotations and expectations of preconceived notions as to what an alien is that it might be hard for people to open up to that idea.
The only comprehension I can grasp to this idea is that aliens dont exactly travel or transport matieral by phsycial means, but rather through connecting to the universal consciousness, or the supreme chitta, the intelligence force powering every atom in existance as a single network of advanced harmonic connectivity. I feel that these 'aliens' are able to tap into our minds and that psychedelic drugs, specifically magic mushrooms, are more or less antennae with which to feed the consciousness a certain frequencey of vibrational receptivity in order to 'contact' these beings riding the waves of the ocean of divine thought. I've never been able to comprehend at ALL these beings, and am not entirely sure that I've been in the proper conscious state which would enable me to even remember if I had been. But there is a presence that I can feel with every mushroom trip, and occaisionally on LSD, that is growing stronger and more 'concrete'. Because I think they are helping usher our souls into our true essence, our pure nature, and that what we think is touching God is in fact just barely scratching the surface level of the most basic inner mechanics of Mother Nature's vast vibrational spectrum. But I may just as likely be completley wrong and out there, who can say for sure? It's doubtful that the beings use words, language, as is apparent on psychedelics, seems to be something that need's to be done away with in it's present form in order to grasp the divine reality, just like the concept of time and the delusion of maya.
Namaste family, peace, japa, sandalwood and sunshine soda!
- Surya

 

Ever since I found out about the glorious substance, I've researched the hell out of it and praised Albert Hoffman from the day I learned his name. God love that genious <3

 

dr albert hofmann...
www.hofmann.org
insight, outlook
lsd: mein sorgenkind

happy 101st birthday, herr doktor...