Is immigration out of control?

Now a passport is required for US citizens to fly into Mexico or Canada, but twelve million undocumented Mexicans should be granted a free pass to cross back and forth without documentation. Yes I think illegal immigration has gotten out of control and with the sanctions of big business.

 

lvmichael - good post !!!!!

 

American's are lazy about learning a new language? American citizens were actually born here and are struggling to survive, or are naturalized citizens that had to learn English to gain citizenship. How is that to be construed as lazy?

Mexican illegals are fleeing a country that can't support them or is oppressive to their lower classes. Do they learn the language? Many do, and many pretend they don't understand English. Many anglos understand enough Spanish to know when they are being insulted by Spanish speakers in markets and other public places, but they are also aware of the PC mentality and choose not confront those illegals that are so impolite they think they are speaking a secret language and say rude things.

I say why not fix what's wrong with Mexico so these people can stay home and raise families there if they choose not to assimilate with a country that provides them with a living.

 

Why should our children need to know Spanish to mow lawns, make beds, sweep floors or cut up lettuce, those are the new jobs being developed here in the states. If you don't think service jobs are the new job creations, give us a break down of where the new work is?

 

Mexican's who come to America; I don't mean neccesarily imigrate to America, definately need to concienciously devote 99% of their time to learning our basic culture and Language, English. We as Americans, need to be patient and give council and understanding.

 

tech sector seems to be the obvious one.

 

immigration is different these days. One, back in the day although it was different cultures it was still basically the same race. Two, everyone alot of people were christians and they kinda care. Three, the belief of evolution is out there more telling people to seemingly think its alright to screw people over. Four, organized crime has grown alot. Five, the people who have been here don't have that mindset so these imigrants stalk nice people down and six, there are 300 million people that population has doubled in the past 50 years and its just getting to be too much.

 

You mean white ? - that is what a lot of the hostility is about - brown people don't blend in as well as white people do they [ he says sarcasticly].

Two, everyone alot of people were christians and they kinda care.

What does this mean ?.

You rascist bigiot.

Yes a undeniable fact.
Forget all this bull about learning the language - where people come from where jobs are going etc etc etc .
It comes down to the No.s game - there could well be too many people entering the country - any country.
Immigration has increased in my country and in America - people are drifting to the more affluent countries in detriment to there own.

 

Yes it is out of control.

Must see!

How to not hire an American

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU

 

what's out of control is the idiocity of trying, even wanting, to control it.

if i were head of a world government the first thing i would do is to ban all restrictions against unarmed civilians crossing any border in any direction at any place at any time.

the i.n.s. and the border patrol should just be eliminated entirely.
along with all this bussiness of anybody needing any kind of documentation or identification.

=^^=
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Right..
This is a big problem with the illegals.
The U.S. honestly doesn't make it too hard to
become a legal citizen..
I mean, look at the other countries
and compare.

 

Yes.. immigration is out of control.

The main problem is rewarding those who have entered the country illegaly. Insted of punishing them for their crimes (yes, being here is a crime) they are being rewarded with benifits that legal immegrant and citizens don't get.
Rewarding them for commiting a crime is an insult to thoes who have spent years going throught the hoops of the system.

Sadly, the same illegal immegrants are being used by big busness. they are payed slave wages, even being forced to work for free, and if they want to try to get a better job they are arrested or worse.

 

Yeah come to the UK and see how well we have dealt with it
What countries are you talking about ??.

 

I think the best solution to the problem, would be to ask Mexico why their people can't find work in a huge country, with a temperate climate and many natural resources?

 

The U.S. is one big hoe with everybody coming through it. The mexicans prolly arent educated enough to open big businesses and big companies to hire loads if ppl. And they maybe dont have the money to do it either...So they come here for work.

 

Ever ask yourself why the poor in Mexico aren't educated. It's because the upper classes in Mexico prefer to keep their peasants, peasants! Why should we support a corrupt nation, that never seems to make any improvements in the living or working conditions of it's own citizens.

NAFTA has had more than ten years to make an impact. I say we repeal it based on the fact that it has not lived up to it's hype.

 

I have never seen a straw man so badly held up.

 

Interesting article written in 2003 on the benefits of NAFTA:

http://www.mindfully.org/WTO/2003/Mexico-Poor-NAFTA22mar03.htm

Or this one in pdf format written in 2004:

http://www.citizen.org/documents/NAFTA_10_democracy.pdf

Perhaps Spooner or anyone else would like to provide proof that it has benefitted the average American, Mexican or Canadian.

 

For Americnas? You get guaranteed access to Albertan Oil. The Canadian Market is open to your exports.

For Canada, it has done a fairly good job of continuing the auto pact, keeping manufactuing alive in Ontario.

Trust me, my problems with NAFTA come from a perspective you wouldn't understand, because Mexico is a barely related third party and the US is the culprit.

But let me state - you've been throwing around the absolute worst straw man I've ever seen. I say it doesn't apply to South America, you act as if I let it put it's cock in my ass.

 

When did this discussion deal with South America only?

And I can supply links that prove that Canada has not fared that well under NAFTA either, the only ones that have are the rich elite, mostly grounded in the US, but hey this is now a global world isn't it, they hide their true affiliations. They are now Global Czars.