Is it really true that the scottish hate the english & vice versa?

It is a genralisation , i admit.
But almost all French hate the english, fact.

The rest you will have to ask them your self.
Have fun with your research.

 

I'm part Scots/English & reasonably proud of both. 'Braveheart' was largely fictional,Wallace was a psychopath who readily perpetraited atrocities himself,as indeed was Robert the Bruce.

Scotland,like our Irish friends,are very keen on independence untill they screw up there economies & need English money to bail them out.

I'd like Scotland to remain in the Union but if they don't want to then thats okay too but forget any ideas of fiscal union.

 

If you don't really know - why say it?

 

But almost all French hate the english, fact.

 

You confuse stereotype with fact.

 

You have obviously no contact with french people or know what they think.
Many despise the English.

 

Wtf... You seem to make things look obvious for your convenience. But really it is based on nothing. Whatever makes your view on the world bearable I guess

 

I wouldn't take it too seriously. It's gone from most of the world:

Scots
Welsh
Irish
French
Dutch
germans
Spanish
Italians
Chinese
Indians
Pakistanis

To...

...almost all French.

Now it's


...many despise the English.

Soon it will be...

A couple of people from Norway.

 

I wasn't talking about that stereotype there ^

I know for a fact (not to be confused with Paul's perception) that he's talking out of his ass here:

 

The French despise the English, as tourists find out it is better to say you are from Oz or even the US.
Many waiters still give the poms are hard time in France.

 

It was just on the news here the other day that the citizens and personnel like waiters etc. are regarded as unusually rude to any tourist that doesn't speak french. Perhaps this has enforced this stereotype for english visitors that they are despised by the french in general. It's not the case though, and also there is a difference between places like Paris and the french in less touristy places.

 

Very true & I know I'm not the only one to suffer French hospitality! They're our nearest neighbours (apart from the Irish & thats not a real country anyway) & were it not for the EU we'd have had a war with the buggers by now.

The loathing is,to be fair,mutual. But I have to admit a grudging admiration for the French on some issues including their resistance to being swamped by other cultures,especially the US & their stance on Islamic dress. Then there was their civilians heroic resistance to the Nazis during WWII.

 

^^ Ireland is not a real country?

 

Second that, girlfriend.

 

The loathing is,to be fair,mutual. But I have to admit a grudging admiration for the French on some issues including their resistance to being swamped by other cultures,especially the US & their stance on Islamic dress. Then there was their civilians heroic resistance to the Nazis during WWII."

The French even defy the media.

 

And they insist on speaking French just to piss us off.

 

It's a relatively big country. A lot of people just don't speak english as well as for example dutch people because they don't feel they have to. You take it personal that they don't speak english well in east european coutnries too?

 

"And they insist on speaking French just to piss us off."

You got that right!

 

Before I went to France, I was told how the French hate Americans, and also how the French hate anyone that doesn't speak French. We were treated very nicely by everyone we met, and they continuously complimented us with such French compliments as 'Merde,' and 'Tu es foutu' (I'm joking! I'm joking!).

Seriously----they treated us very nicely, and the women flirted with me, the men flirted with my wife, the gays flirted with my son (he said they were flirting with me, but...) My wife even made fun of the Frenchmen speaking French and they didn't mind (though she has the looks to get away with that). We had no problem what so ever the entire trip---everyone was nice-----until we got back home to the States, and some asshole American guy was very rude to us, because we were flying first class, and wanted to get on the plane when our section was called, while he thought his economy class ticket entitled him to keep others off the plane until his section was called. I simply asked him, "Excuse me, are you in line?" He then stood next to the gate between my family and I, and when the attendant asked if he was with us (because I had all the boarding passes) he answered back that 'He would never be with me!' and other rude bullshit. I could not believe what an asshole he was...

I thought it was interesting that in the Imperial War Museum in London, there are pictures of Scottish Heroes, under a sign that says something to the effect that they were born in Scotland but became heroes in Britain. I forget the exact words---but I remember that it sounded like: even though they were born Scottish, they overcame those odds of inferiority and became heroes to the Empire.

Then there is the joke about Newcastle that I heard once, that makes fun of not onlythe Scottish, but also those Northern English with their funny accents---People talk bad about it, but, Newcastle is doing its job. When the Scottish drive into England, they pull into Newcastle, take a look around, and disappointed, they turn around and drive back.

When I lived in the Philippines, I had a good British friend and a good Scottish friend. I had a lot of fun drinking with them----but not together. When I told my British friend, a Cockney, about introducing my Scottish friend, he had no interest in meeting him. My Scottish friend was not so adamant, but he didn't really care to meet my English friend either. (Interestingly, they were both married to Filipinas, and did not consider themselves prejudice. My English friend did tell me how Scottish were prejudiced and that he has black friends and the Scotts are rude to them, etc. etc.

But I also knew a Scottish girl in Japan, and she was friends with an English girl.

All in all, I think that to label everyone that way is a generalization. Some people may think that they hate a group, but actually have friends among that group. My son sometimes claims to hate Mexicans (to which I always try to tell him that he shouldn't hate anyone, and that each culture has value, and beauty, etc etc). Yet my son has several good friends that are Mexican, and he usually adds that he loves Latina girls.

On the other hand, prejudice is a sneaky devil. Research around the recent Stop and Frisk policy of the Police in New York, has shown that White people tend to believe that prejudism is not a problem, while black people believe it is. The whole controversy surrounding the Stop & Frisk policy demonstrates that it is still a problem. I used to think that it was not a problem myself until I started hanging out with Native Americans and learning how they have been treated even in recent years----they continuously experience discrimination, and are treated badly by the Police and everyone. My son-in-law, who is both Black, and part Blackfoot Indian, told me that he hates Indians, and thinks they are lazy people. (Compared to my friend Cordell Kills Crow---we are all lazy. I don't know how he does all the things he does in a day----and most of it is doing for other people and volunteer work, and he doesn't just do things---he accomplishes things).

Speaking of my son-in-law----he is married to my stepdaughter who is Filipina. In the Philippines, when her and her sister were about 9 and 10, they had a teacher who looked black---he was a Negrito, one of the aboriginal tribes in the Philippines, but to them he was black---and they did not like him. (They smell, their skin color is no good, etc etc.) I told them that such an attitude was very bad, and they just need to get to know them better, and when we go to America...) Both of them married black guys (but they both talk bad about Mexicans-----it is so hard to teach tolerance!).

Also in regards to the Newcastle joke----humor can reflect and enforce prejudice, but it can also undermine it and break it down. I think racial humor plays an important part in the transition away from bigotry. The American character of Archie Bunker is a perfect example of this. When people understand that such sentiments are wrong, even if they only understand it superficially, laughing at racial humor helps them see their own prejudices in a non-confrontational way, in fact, much of that happens even at a subconscious level.

 

Wait a minute----they did! That made me so mad too---even on TV, and in the Newspapers! At one hotel, I demanded that they give me the phone number to the local TV station so I could phone them up and give them a piece of my mind about speaking French. What is wrong with them?!

Seriously though, I guess people don't realize that when you live in a foreign country and have a chance to meet your fellow country men----it actually feels good to speak in your native language. I speak fluent Japanese, and when I lived in Japan, I had some friends that were also quite fluent. When we got together, we could have spoken in Japanese to each other, and would have had no problem communicating----but we never spoke Japanese to each other. And it felt really good to get together and just talk in our Native English.

I understand Tagalog (Filipino) quite well. When my wife and her family and friends get together, they speak Tagalog. Other people who don't understand it can be offended. Often times they think they are talking about them (...well, sometimes they are right.)