Is it time to talk about guns?

Considering that 2019 is the latest publication by the FBI on the subject and it has no data on the category of mass shootings, I think I'll go with CDC and Pew Research and occasionally, yes, Newsweek, when it comes to reporting recent incidents of mass gun violence.
Flaws in the FBI Uniform Crime Reports Regarding Homicide and Weapons Use | Office of Justice Programs
13 Major Pros and Cons of the Uniform Crime Report
It used to be that gun fans would cite car fatalities as their basis for comparison (despite the difference in utility and the fact that cars are highly regulated), Now gun deaths are catching up ( the number of states plus the District of Columbia where gun deaths exceed motor vehicle deaths has increased from just 13 in 2010 to 35 in 2020—a jump of 169 percent) https://vpc.org/regulating-the-gun-industry/gun-deaths-compared-to-motor-vehicle-deaths/ So the NRA and its minions have turned to other false equivalences. I've never heard of a mass murder by fists, and trying it by knife is awkward. Somebody in China tried that, but none of the victims died. As for pistols, Seung-Hui Cho.set the record for that at Virginia Tech back in 1984, but semiautomatics are so much more reliable and efficient. Handguns are handy for killing individual friends and neighbors--less conspicuous and clumsy to carry around than an AR-15. And for wives and kiddies, fists may do nicely. Again, the FBI's data make no arguments, nor do you. We have to figure out what your point is and decide whether or not we think it's relevant.

 

But some things are more easily controlled than others. We can round up or kill dangerous animals or stay away from them. The weather is much more of a challenge--especially since the same folks who block gun control tend also to be adamant against climate change legislation. And individual homicides can be done in a variety of ways, depending on the intended victim. We do hope that our laws against homicide have some deterrent effect. As for people, they're admittedly ornery cusses, but we also try to control their dangerous behavior in a variety of ways through policing and civil and criminal penalties. A dangerous person is more dangerous with a gun.

 

The difference between you, and me, is that I don't walk around being paranoid.

 

What about it?
Let me expand on it and add that the punishment for using a firearm in a criminal act, whether the firearm is legal or illegal, needs to rise to the level that it makes even the most I don't give a fuck hardened criminal think better of it.
No pleading down, no bail or bond, and harsh mandatory sentences. On top of whatever else was done, even shoplifting bubblegum.

 

Gunman kills 2 during Oslo Pride festival; terror suspected

Someone forgot to tell this guy that this only happens in America...

 

How did you come up with assessment ?

 

We should also consider dangerous states.

We might also mention dangerous states.States with the most gun violence share one trait - CNNPolitics Some of them can be really dangerous. Texas, for example. Apparently, they have the most dangerous people in the country,, cuz there are more gun deaths in Texas than in any other state. US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Gov. Abbott tweeted his disappointment(shortly before Uvalde) that Texas had fallen behind California in gun sales. But Texas was ahead of California in gun deaths per capita in 2020, the most recent year for which the CDC has published statistics--4,164 or 14.2 per 100,000 for Texas, compared to 3,449 deaths or 8.5 per 100,000 for California.. How could that be? Are the good guys with the guns gooder in California than in Texas?

According to the RAND Corporation, the agency with the most recent hard- to- get data on gun ownership in the U.S., between 2007-2016 (the latest period for which RAND has published the data) the top 6 states were:

• Mississippi -- 50% of adults live in a household with a gun.
• Louisiana -- 48%.
• Wyoming -- 59%.
• Missouri -- 48%.
• Alabama -- 50%.
• Alaska -- 59%

And the top states for gun death rates in 2020 after Texas, according to CDC were:
e top states by gun death rates are:

• Mississippi -- 28.6.
• Louisiana -- 26.3.
• Wyoming -- 25.9.
• Missouri -- 23.9.
• Alabama -- 23.6.
• Alaska -- 23.5.

Interesting.

 

That would be telling a lie, but it happens far less frequently in other countries. This guy was an ex- Iranian Muslim terrorist shooting up a gay event. The weapons seized were a handgun an automatic weapon and a handgun, described only as “not modern”.

 

I am an excellent judge of character.

 

As you neglected to mention the death rates are per 100,000 people

Texas is 14.2 , according to the CDC information you just posted

The information is just above the homicide rate 7.6

From the CNN information you posted

Texas does not have the highest gun death rate, however. Far from it.
The top states by gun death rates are:

• Mississippi -- 28.6.
• Louisiana -- 26.3.
• Wyoming -- 25.9.
• Missouri -- 23.9.
• Alabama -- 23.6.
• Alaska -- 23.5.

 

But of course you are.

 

Hmmm. I just checed. What I said was "4,164 or 14.2 per 100,000 for Texas".

 

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Thank You,

Isn’t California rated #1 for the toughest gun laws in the country?

 

You are correct . All those good red states with the loose gun laws.

 

As you are well aware, the Laws just changed.

 

What they found after the incident doesn't matter. It's the muzzi that was dangerous, not the firearms. And he wasn't an ex terrorist. I wonder if he could have been more successful with a box truck like the....ahh, forget it. It was definitely the guns.

 

Isn’t California rated #1 for the toughest gun laws in the country?[/QUOTE] Yes, in terms of firearms regulation. There is still a lot of gun ownership.

Yes," just". I'm hiden' under my bed!.