I think the abortion is great. Makes me even trust a girl more. Certainly more than a single mom, whose views on abortion are self-evident. What`s not so great is the fact that she got knocked up. I partially agree with Yazz's post. Unlike him, I think a girl who`s had 30+ is hot IF, she has boundaries. Which, as Yazz says, is usually not the case. My first concern would be: a) how does the OP know? Did he ask, or is this chick just a loud mouth, always spilling the beans, who switches, and has the lowest possible cut, and the miniest possible mini-skirt every time you walk down the street next to her, and who is constantly bumping into past partners and giving them the time of the day while you`re right there? To sum it up? Does she get the concept of privacy? b) Was the pregnancy just a one-in-a-lifetime thing, or is it corroborated by other self-destructive behavior? c) Does she get regularly tested? d) MOST IMPORTANT OF ALL, Does she keep her commitments with me or is she flaky? Is she capable of giving me her entire attention during the time we are together or do I always feel like I`m competing? Can she say, NO? Does she actively make decisions, or is sex something that is done to her? Most women I`ve met do not pass this test. Some women with 1 partner, do not pass that test. e) Does she need alcohol in order to hook up? I pass my test, and I`ve had more than triple the amount of partners the OP`s girlfriends had. Yet, I don`t think anyone would know, unless they were in bed with me. If she`s had 30 partners, and she`s got boundaries and self-esteem (rare, but possible) then that`s HOT. It would simply mean her libido matches mine.
^This post needs to be archived, it pretty much describes a proper response to any other subsequent thread that has this same topic in it. I second it.
I would think that's hot too - most of you that replied to me missed my point. The abortion is just one clue in the case. Alone it implies nothin (to some people) - but if it's just one clue of many that all form the same pattern..
The statement about abortion being hot was not mentioned in Cherea's post. And I think Cherea meant that abortion has a place in society, as a needed service, but I do personally disagree with the general statement of saying the procedure being great because it's not. I find it really sad.
Me too - how much trouble is 9 months for being lazy with a condom when you can just give it up for adoption? Too much commitment for a baby that could cure cancer or something one day? pathetic in my opinion. Unless there were extreme circumstances revolving around the abortion a "run of the mill" abortion would be immediate grounds for rejection. I didn't add that earlier in the thread because I was trying to be unbiased for the topic being discussed but i mean come on... most of the people who get abortions are just lazy irresponsible pieces of shit. It's not about a "good life choice" it's about not suffering the embarassment to your friends/family at having to walk around with that belly for 6 months. Lets face it - the abortion itself is way more traumatic to any woman than having to carry a baby for 6 months and then give it up for adoption...
Well let's not over generalize here, in some cultures it's quite necessary because a girl's parents could be super strict and crazy. But yeah adoption should be the primary choice over abortion in my opinion. I won't go so far as to say that maybe the baby would grow up to be the next Steve Jobs and that's why you shouldn't do abort the pregnancy, but that baby has a place in this world. Using abortion as a form of birth control is morally wrong, and hazardous to the woman's health.
Yeah yeah it's all the woman's fault. The woman is the irresponsible one, right? Have you guys ever thought of your own responsibility? How would you feel if you had to worry every time you had sex about getting pregnant, and you were shamed for it? You have no idea what kind of pressure that puts on a woman.
i can't believe people still believe this 'stud' and 'slut' stuff guys will think other guys are studs but girls will think they are sleaze bags. girls will think their other girl friends are 'just having fun' whilst men think they are sluts. these distinctions do not carry well across the board at least in terms of generalities. so yeah - girls who sleep around smelly hoe bags.
Men are genetically hardwired with a desire to spread their seed as much as possible, to maximize chances of having offspring. Women, on the other hand, are hardwired to ensure their offspring has a good genetic makeup, and the best chance of survival; for that, she must be selective with her mate and also make sure he will not leave her to fend for herself once his seed is sown. Are such conceptions redundant in modern society? Perhaps. The fact is, for most of us, these "values" still hold true, and it is hard to accept that people - especially ones close to us - deviate from them. I am happy for people to explore their sexuality freely and with as many partners as they want, but I would not stay in a relationship with a girl who was overly promiscuous, even if only in her past. At the same rate, when I was younger I was haunted by feelings of inadequacy and insecurity, and I set myself a goal of sleeping with a certain number of girls. Only when I had exceeded that number by a bit did I realize how incredibly silly it is to base your self-worth on something so meaningless..
I personally, me, myself i love sluts however if a woman is being in a relationship saying things such as "I love you" and so forth than the woman sould demonstrate behaviour accordingly. Does the fact that your girl may have been a little more active than some make her a slut now? No! But if it bothers you than you need to evaluate you options . When im in a relationship thats serious if the thought of lets say looking through her cell fone even enters my mind its over at that point trying ro "work through" things or "rebuild" trust for me are difficult things to do but if a woman is a "slut" and not in denial about it hell i respect that i guess the worst thing to me a slut could do is say "im not a slut" my opinion her past does not make her now a slut ya have to forget pasts and move foward...
An interesting concept was presented to me the other day which, being a man, I had not considered before. The concept was just that basicalyl when women are growing up - age 9 to 12/13/etc if the family situation at their home is horrible, or traumatic, or abusive, etc... then they may try to accelerate maturity because they know that it's an escape from the current environment. One of the more frequent (and obvious to a newly crowned teenager) ways to do this is by having sex sooner/younger/etc... Young women get the association that if they are having sex/dating sooner then they can be married/out of the house sooner (away from the bad parents/home life/etc). I wonder how many women can identify with that?