Is The Uncertainty Principle Incompatible With Determinism?

Do you think I intend to insult you? "you are saying you don't understand. Why the default I'm being insulted because someone said something I thought was about me and I don't understand it. How is you calling me insulting, me being insulting. Show me the insult, show me the words an i will explain it. I will ask you another question, are reading all the responses in this thread? Because after all I have said for you to say I am being insulting is to call me a liar. i have said repeatedly no I am not trying to insult, not this time, not that time, at no time.
About deserving respect at the start. What you are saying is you are reserving judgement. That is not the same as saying someone is deserving respect. It says you're human so I give you the benefit of the doubt that you act humanely
Dear you have never offended me. You do not give me my value it is given to me in creation. What you have asked me to do is to reassure you time and again about the same thing. You haven't offended me but I have done nothing to defend myself for. if you don't understand something ask me specifically about it.

 

I never used thw word insulting.....????

I said insinuating, and that is how it feels...maybe I am wrong...but that is how it feels....what are you insinuating? you say something about fending for the one being disrespected on the bottom. Who are YOU talking about?.....Have I insulted someone on the bottom?.....I would never kick a dog who is down...never.....anyway, no matter if that dog treated me very badly...so that makes no sense to me, anyway.

Yes, and they do say respect is earned.....but I meet everyone for the first time, and we have a blank page....and then whatever our dynamic does, the pages begin filling....hopefully without any interference.....metaphorically speaking.

 

I lost a post somewhere but it was about the statement reality cannot be defined. Reality is a word that has a definition, it means all that exists. What is not real does not exist. We can never list even closely what all the bits of reality. That is not our effort. Our effort is to make true distinctions about the aspects of reality we see.

 

Disrespect is an insult, "You said i feel disrespected because you are insinuating something. You are taking words out of the context of our discussion and questioning on the basis that the word suggests something about you. I said when I see people as a way of answering your question to me about me. I said when I see people,not you moonglow. but I don'[t care who is doing it, if you do it on purpose then you would be one of those people at that point. And even though i said something that doesn't mean you will regard what I say that doesn't mean I failed. I am not tying to win, i am standing up for harmlessness.

 

Well on the respect issue, you hear what people say. How about what I said? What I said is the correct way that idea functions. It never starts with deserving of respect. You could misinterpret something and automatically get upset without even considering accident or misinterpretation or personal malaise. If you measure people by how they treat you, everyone is on eggshells. We measure our goodness in how kindly we are to them.

 

How can respect be earned. you don't earn my respect. My respect is mine to give. To earn respect is to be charged for respect.

 

This was uncalled for. You used the word respect first, and i said I never disrespected you...It does not matter, anyway.....This conversation always winds up with me wearing the egg on my face......and I feel me talking anymore is pointless...goes around and around the same circle....and somehow I am the bad one....so be it. i am awful....as bad as they come.....so stand up for me then. I am harmless.
What is the point of this discussion anymore.....?

 

i guess I can't. That is fine...am not trying anymore.

 

Good because I give you mine

 

The reason you feel like you have egg on your face is because you were suggesting something that was not so. The only thing you have done that was not so was suggest I had any negative things to say about you. I talk about functions and and making true distinctions. I don't talk about people except in relating that I know people in my life. I talk to people.
It is not your fault. We don't know what we don't know. as far as standing up for you I have.The words you are using are your words, You never use anyone elses words you quote them.
And as to being uncalled for you ask me a question. It is really easy once you get the hang of the fact that no one here is a threat to you. The only threat that exists is to illusion.

 

noxiousgas, please do not confuse me for someone who is saying that it's not all a matter of perspective. It would be unfair, as that is what I have been arguing for days now. It's not all a matter of order. There is no order to perspective. Some perspectives don't come first and others last, at least not in a manner of speaking. No one is more entitled to life than any other.

Everything is in cosmic disorder. We're just so accustomed to it we usually think of it as something normal than something abstract. It's disorderly for order and disorder to exist in the same universe.

thedope: so everything currently is in perfect "order" and would still be in perfect order even if disorder didn't exist? Wouldn't those be two completely different scenarios? How can you point to one universe and name it "perfect order" and point to another and name it "perfect order" and another and name it "perfect order" and another and another and another, merrily 'til the end of time, and pretend you're thinking about it/being scientific about it? I would call such behavior itself disorderly.

 

If you speak to a quarrelsome man (or woman) without contradicting him, you will soon realize that he is actually quarrelling with himself.

The goal then becomes to prove himself resourceful.

He does not realize that he is God.

 

If you speak in if's you are speculating

 

What is firm?

And what do you consider evidence?

Your experience is what allows you to speak to me.

 

Revelations 10 -10

What is the same is the same and what is different is different and not the same

 

To have eyes that read words, you must first be born into the world.

 

The body is a communication device. To learn you must listen

 

It is my experience that allows you to listen

 

And to listen, you must be.

 

Who do you say I am