Is the World at large disappointing, or are the people in it So?

Discussion in 'Existentialism' started by godhaunt, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    It must have cooled off.
     
  2. reb

    reb Member

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    the mathematical formula for unhappiness:

    expectations - reality=unhappiness

    unhappiness x time immersed in unhappiness = depression

    depression = deathwish because the world does not meet expectations
     
  3. willedwill

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    And freedom is turned to concrete expectations for this lack of happiness; and the Idea of God existing or Not becomes the basis of God's own Becoming.

    The problem is: does becoming allow faith to Exist for or against beliefs imposed at us, corresponding to the Idea of the believing: has believing anything to do with non-believing ... by the conscious Belief I in turn impose at someone Else.

    .... like a weakness which seeps into my unconsciousness to create this doubt in someone else's capacity to love me.


    The end still NOT... why not? the people in it are disappointing because they don't love me as a Whole. It's externality is disappointing because I cannot love them as a whole back.

    But which is it? It resolves a better understanding for Action if the unconscious character in Me Be freed to being in itself. According to the courage to Be; I have the self-confirmation of Being, the becoming ultimately Becomes a being of sorts. Talking about ultimate God, ultimate reality of a mystical Certainty; out of fulness Becoming only limits the capacity to open up to Others; out of fulness, the opinions of even physics, we have are the means to break down the other from arbitrary opinions;

    but I am not that One; I freely accept the Other's opinion about Nature, ironically 'Against Becoming'. without End...
     
  4. I'm disappointed. The prevalence of media in our lives... TV is basically just a conformity box. Diversity is being stifled horribly by a general philosophy of utter stupidity and emptiness, materialism, self-obsession, and desperation.

    I live in Iowa, and there are people here who actually think they are gangsters. And girls turn themselves into objects and treat others as though they have to behave the same way. And the children are left without fathers and the cycle gets even worse.

    In general people are self-important to the point of delusion. The only people who aren't delusional are old folks, and they're treated like garbage. I don't get around a lot of children, but I wouldn't be surprised if their parents have already turned them into sex objects anymore. Humanity is degenerating into a hideous blob of flesh, sperm, and sweat.
     
  5. AK Bones

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    Any statement about the world at large can only be a reflection of the psychology of the person making the statement.

    Homo sapiens have proven themselves to be very clever and very destructive. Also tend to have sheep-like characteristics. I can only imagine all the other animals looking at us and saying "Look what those crazy monkeys are doing now".
     
  6. willedwill

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    They lie to themselves that they can love each other too when they're at It.
     
  7. reb

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    i loves youse guys!

    really.

    now, where's the beer n pizza? garden pizza with some pepperoni and extra cheese is a reflection of my psychology.
     
  8. willedwill

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    I know; you want a black out caused by goddot. The problem in a psychological starter is whether the human reality has it's presence in the human (or divine) existence.
     
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  10. willedwill

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    Kay; there's not much of a social context to debate about for the over-politicized world of politics. No, I'm not talking about being in history for you. I am who I am in the time of socializing in hopefully a context of the universe. And the universe is aware of the Earth full of Nature. The nature is second nature which when Man destroys he finds Himself with morals of Fear rather than courage to repair what he has done up until now.


    Now that's supposed to be Human Nature? Come on man, it is funny how human nature is still attempting Man as it's mortal enemy.LOL (not the emoticon for historical situatedness)
     
  11. andallthatstocome

    andallthatstocome not a squid

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    I find disappointment primarily in that separation of otherness, the inevitable expanse of ego which defines day-to-day awareness.
     
  12. willedwill

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    I know life is just supposed to be per Truth a biological function, but what does "get a Life" supposed to mean? I watch as their Ego overwhelms me with disappointment.

    My answer is that the Others disappoint me. Now, I feel dishonest to myself. It IS.
     
  13. willedwill

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    OR I watch as their Ego makes me want to lose my ego, for they have less of one then too. I am the saint who needs to escape the city, Zarathustra. Eva; maybe she will be there again at the museum in the forest; maybe, I shall realize that my Self was with her rather than against. That this is no longer existentialism.
     
  14. guerillabedlam

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    Responding solely to the title of the thread, Both are disappointing. The world, or at least our collective knowledge of the world is disappointing and people are disappointing.

    When I was a kid, Pluto was the 9th planet in the solar system and the Tyrannosaurus Rex was the most vicious creature known to walk the earth. Now, Pluto is just a meteor that got caught in our solar system and just being flung around on some lopsided orbit and many think T-Rex was basically an oversized vulture. Thats disappointment!

    People are disappointing because they get caught up in silly trends, follow unjust laws, and idolize pretty ridiculous people/things.
     
  15. scratcho

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    The world is a strange and beautiful place ,being as it is, one of a number of objects orbiting a dying star, giving forth and manifesting life as we know it and live it. Mother nature shrugs her shoulders occasionally and all in her way pay a price. Natural and troubling, however still natural and ongoing. It's been and will remain ever thus. There can be no disappointment in what we have been given,only disappointment in the results of our "advancement" from lizard brain to hunter-gatherers-to so-called civilization. If what we have now, relative to our supposed advancement, is the culmination of a few million years of evolution --then I am very disappointed in humans for not achieving that of which we are capable. "We've" made the "rules" for living and conducting ourselves as we do and "we" can alter them to affect a better way of living for all sentient beings. We have at our disposal(unfortunately) all we get. Also unfortunately, I see chaos a-coming---but the earth will abide. (for a while)The Dude may not.
     
  16. lee1111111

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    i am new here,and i am amazed to actually read posts from others that fit in with my life.do you ever feel youre the only one who can see what is happening,a sort of 6th sense?that youre views make you unpopular?i think that dissapointment is a bag of garbage on youre back,all you need to do is let it go:sunny:this is but an illusory dream world,just as when you dream you believe yourself to (exist) in that dream,so the same for waking life,we are still dreaming,this is a material world,of the material dimensions,a world for bodys.if you want to be free the world of the mind,which is formless,is a better reality.the power of the mind is without boundarys,everything in this world was created by mind through the imagination.perhaps when satan says he collects souls he should say minds,billions of people are lost to the worldly life,it us people like us who know better,we see them as sheep,does that not show our minds are further forward than most?and dont you think that we should do something about it?
     
  17. willedwill

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    Satan burns books, but, seriously, as the answer may also be Satan, it makes you work on remembering what was written in those books.
     
  18. lee1111111

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    the olympics are stupid just another distraction,in a never ending circle of distractions,im talking festivals for people of the higher mind,someone like john lennon to lead a movement,to get the populus going inwards instead of outwards,there must be some high up folk out there who have this awareness of mind evolution,we just need to drop our fears,and go out and express them.a religious type of truth and awareness after all we have this gift for a reason.this is here and now.not buddhism or hinduism or christianity but a way of life for our modern world.this can be global my friends.it ticks all the boxes of what this existence needs,to heal our mother earth(gaia),and bring balance back to the conciousnesses of human lives.to sum up peace and love:sunny:
     
  19. Lumini

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    The world is all-natural. It may be disappointing in relation to each of our respective viewpoints- not for itself, as a place, but for all that people have caused.
    So, I can't help but believe it is the people that are disappointing, not the world itself.
     
  20. franx144

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    I have found that disappointment is the very hallmark of existence.
     

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