ill believe it wen i see people get into a world wide country and u have to get a mark on your hands r head to buy food or anything else. either i wanna live through it if its real. it would be a cool experiance.
not "chance or luck" NOR 'devine will', but the direct NATURAL consiquence of thoughtlessly and poorly chosen priorities, a thoughtlessness contributed directly to by fanantacisms of ALL sorts, economic and idiological as well as religeous. the human population EMplosion, and i'll grant it's not too far of a stretch that there could be one, will not be an instantanious nor dramatic proccess. it also need not be a painful one, but that last is up to us, and NOT on the basis of what we choose to believe in, but how the dynamics of priorities and motivations actualy work in both the natural and social universe. and not by war but primarily environmental 'melt down' (meaning it gets harder for humans to live at all, the way we have been living, not rocks or trees or neccessarily even any harder on little furry creatures then it's already gotten), in turn triggering economic colapse. war, as such, though wars there might well for a time continue to be, will remain of little pertenance, other then to all of the totaly unnessessary and useless deaths that occur as a resault of them. still likely to be exceeded by victums of malnutrition, if the suggested path of fanatacism continues to be fallowed. sorry jerry but the problem with your suggestions is that they are the path that is already being fallowed and precisely the reason for the dire consiquences of doing so we are already seeing. terrible and horrifying we don't have to immagine. we're already seeing that as a direct resault of fanatacism of several flavours on several sides as it is. or havn't you poked your nose out of your bible long enough to open your eyes and see it? =^^= .../\...
Agree with themnax and also There is no geopolitical justification for this scenerio. There have been 6 major wars in this area in 50 years and it has never led to world wide conflict. The only major world power with the military reach AND economic/political stakes in the area is the US So how would anyone with major arsenals be involved but the US? The military reality of it is that if the US or Israel went nuclear, Those above nations would cease to exist as a threat to anyone. A 3rd world war requires boths sides to have formidable military power. Those above nations, even 'combined', do not. Occam
Hahahah...sorry but that was a good one. Man I thought this was about Jerry Garcia, who cares about some bible thumper?
oh how i so devoutly wish none of us had to. in the long run of course i suppose none of us will. right now though, it is of course fanatics of several stripes, of which christers happen to be one, that are causing immeasurable and utterly gratuitous suffering. yah jerry garcia was pretty cool. i wasn't really all that much moved by the dead's music itself. i mean in the context of the times, there was all sorts more interesting to me going on musicly, but as a culture, the deadheads, yah right on. =^^= .../\...
I voted "yes" thinking it was Jerry Garcia... Ashes And Glass Lyrics: Bob Weir and Andre Pessis Music: Bob Weir and others from Ratdog What if all tomorow brings is ashes and glass And I can't tell you child, "this too shall pass" If all the world were windswept, cold and gray (note 1) And in the end there's nothing left to say If all the silicon and best laid plans (note 2) Became the master, and the fall of man If all the earth were baked to hard red clay Not so far from where we are today Ah well anyway Come on darlin', swing and sway Daddy gonna find us a better way And if that better way don't float Daddy gonna find us a tighter boat And if that tighter boat don't sail Grab a bucket babe, and start to bail And if that bucket spring a leak Little miss, we're up the creek What if fire came raining on the hills And mountains made of rusting Coupe De Villes And all God's children find themselves alone (note 3) And all the poets took to throwing stones Guess we're on our own No way out and no way home Come on baby, it's time to sing Daddy gonna grab that old brass ring And if that old brass ring don't fit Daddy gonna get to fixin it And if that old brass ring stays broke Daddy gonna buy you a billy goat And if that billy goat don't bark Gonna give that goat the old kick start Old kick start What if all that was left was ashes and glass And I can't tell you child, "this too shall pass" (note 4) And if those four horsemen can't be turned away And everyone's too paralyzed to pray Too paralyzed to pray And the jury's out on judgement day And there ain't nothing left to say Nothing left to say Come on baby we can fly Daddy's got a stack of alibi's Alibi's shot full of holes Come on child, let's rock and roll And if that roll takes us to France Teach them Froggies how to dance Keep on dancin', sing the tune We'll be dancin' all around the moon And if that big old moon go bust Well ashes to ashes, baby, dust to dust Baby it's time for one last rave Keep on dancin' on our own graves On our own graves Keep on dancing On our own graves Keep on dancing Keep on dancing
And I am sure you have looked into the Bible yourself despite the popular delusion that the Bible is an ancient myth?
Oh YEHHH When the jews return to zion and a commet fills the sky and the holy roman empire rises then you and i must die From the eternal sea he rises creating armies on either shore turning man against his brother till man exists no more. about the Apoxylipse...way cool But this one [revelation 13:18] "Let him who hath understanding recon the number of the beast for it is a human number, it's number is six hundred and sixty six." Is just silly, cause occam lives at 664 [the neighbour of the beast?] And the guy at 666 is a loudmouthed greek who pebblecreted his entire house and yard. And STILL has'nt returned the hammer occam lent him last month. Anyway. EVERYONE knows that Ronald Wilson Reagan [6 letters in each name...666] was the real antichrist. And he failed to bring about armageddon because satan forgot to factor alzheimers into his final solution. Thus all ronald managed to do was indirectly cause the collapse of the USSR. Which pissed of satan no end. Religion is REALLY COOL. Occam can think of no other belief that generates such comedy. The only sad thing is that jesus the man has had his name stolen and his beliefs sodomized into a part of package that includes an old testament of horrific tales not fit for children to read. Especially this one Leviticus 20:9 "If anyone curses their mother or father, they must be put to death." And this one truly describes the love of jesus for his fellow beings. Deuteronomy 7:1-2 "When the lord your god brings you into the land you are entering to posses and drives out before you many nations. Then you must destroy them totally, make no treaty with them and show them no mercy" Occam
Occam, Why do you talk in the third person... that's just wierd. Ronald Reagan the antiChrist... never heard that one before... but I know for a fact that he was not the antiChrist.
the point is: if and when, anything destroys our human species, dollars to doughnuts, it well be our own hand stabbing ourselves in our own back, and beliefs like christianity, are the will guiding our own hand to do so. war was the more obvious way, but that was once upon a time. now we no longer need war to do that. we're doing it with what we are doing to the natural environment upon which our existence utterly depends. this is not the fault of any god or demon, but of the pretense of belief being used to romantacise sensless, arrogant destructiveness. christianity is being used to do this. islam is being used to do this. capitolism is being used to do this. even frustration at seeing the stupidity of doing this is being used to some extent to do this. =^^= .../\...
any one who is constantly saying "the bible doesnt say that" or "show me the proof its happening" 1) read the bible if ytoiu wanna argue against it. you should always know your opponent in a debate 2)after you read them, you can see alot coming true right now. and whoever was talking about how people thought that the stamp act was the mark of the beast was an idiot for using this as an argument. the people who belived this were stupid cause the mark is gonna be on your forehead or hand. it specifically states that in the bible, not some vaugue prophesy.
People have been trying to predicted the end of the world, well as long as the world as been around, mostly everybody is pessimistic about everything, so the end of the world is always a good topic, I myself, would like to think about more happier stuff when I can, so why ponder on it, it only makes you depressed.
Yet, in the Christian aspect of it, it is the happiest day of their lives because the finally get to be with the creator.
JDFU But everyone dies anyway..so they get to be with their creator no mater what happens to the rest of the world. Occam read somewhere that many want the end of the world in their lifetime cause they dont want anyone else to get to keep living if they cannot. Scary psychology that one is. Occam
Well Jesus will return to gather the rest of His people off earth before he judges the world and shows them that He is the God of creation. Anyone that says they want Jesus to come quickly so others will not get saved ... don't sound like Christians to me