Is the world going to end as predicted by Jerry?

Discussion in 'The Future' started by Blue Lobster, Jul 15, 2005.

  1. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    ill believe it wen i see people get into a world wide country and u have to get a mark on your hands r head to buy food or anything else. either i wanna live through it if its real. it would be a cool experiance.
     
  2. cerridwen

    cerridwen in stitches

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    i'm going with yes... but i don't know.
     
  3. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    not "chance or luck" NOR 'devine will', but the direct NATURAL consiquence of thoughtlessly and poorly chosen priorities, a thoughtlessness contributed directly to by fanantacisms of ALL sorts, economic and idiological as well as religeous.

    the human population EMplosion, and i'll grant it's not too far of a stretch that there could be one, will not be an instantanious nor dramatic proccess. it also need not be a painful one, but that last is up to us, and NOT on the basis of what we choose to believe in, but how the dynamics of priorities and motivations actualy work in both the natural and social universe.

    and not by war but primarily environmental 'melt down' (meaning it gets harder for humans to live at all, the way we have been living, not rocks or trees or neccessarily even any harder on little furry creatures then it's already gotten), in turn triggering economic colapse. war, as such, though wars there might well for a time continue to be, will remain of little pertenance, other then to all of the totaly unnessessary and useless deaths that occur as a resault of them.

    still likely to be exceeded by victums of malnutrition, if the suggested path of fanatacism continues to be fallowed. sorry jerry but the problem with your suggestions is that they are the path that is already being fallowed and precisely the reason for the dire consiquences of doing so we are already seeing.

    terrible and horrifying we don't have to immagine. we're already seeing that as a direct resault of fanatacism of several flavours on several sides as it is.

    or havn't you poked your nose out of your bible long enough to open your eyes and see it?

    =^^=
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  4. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Agree with themnax
    and also
    There is no geopolitical justification for this scenerio.
    There have been 6 major wars in this area in 50 years and
    it has never led to world wide conflict.
    The only major world power with the military reach AND economic/political stakes in the area is the US
    So how would anyone with major arsenals be involved but the US?

    The military reality of it is that if the US or Israel went nuclear,
    Those above nations would cease to exist as a threat to anyone.
    A 3rd world war requires boths sides to have formidable military power.
    Those above nations, even 'combined', do not.

    Occam
     
  5. Lenny

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    Hahahah...sorry but that was a good one. Man I thought this was about Jerry Garcia, who cares about some bible thumper?
     
  6. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    oh how i so devoutly wish none of us had to. in the long run of course i suppose none of us will. right now though, it is of course fanatics of several stripes, of which christers happen to be one, that are causing immeasurable and utterly gratuitous suffering.

    yah jerry garcia was pretty cool. i wasn't really all that much moved by the dead's music itself. i mean in the context of the times, there was all sorts more interesting to me going on musicly, but as a culture, the deadheads, yah right on.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  7. Microcosmatrix

    Microcosmatrix Member

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    I voted "yes" thinking it was Jerry Garcia...

    Ashes And Glass

    Lyrics: Bob Weir and Andre Pessis
    Music: Bob Weir and others from Ratdog

    What if all tomorow brings is ashes and glass
    And I can't tell you child, "this too shall pass"
    If all the world were windswept, cold and gray (note 1)
    And in the end there's nothing left to say

    If all the silicon and best laid plans (note 2)
    Became the master, and the fall of man
    If all the earth were baked to hard red clay
    Not so far from where we are today

    Ah well anyway

    Come on darlin', swing and sway
    Daddy gonna find us a better way
    And if that better way don't float
    Daddy gonna find us a tighter boat

    And if that tighter boat don't sail
    Grab a bucket babe, and start to bail
    And if that bucket spring a leak
    Little miss, we're up the creek

    What if fire came raining on the hills
    And mountains made of rusting Coupe De Villes
    And all God's children find themselves alone (note 3)
    And all the poets took to throwing stones

    Guess we're on our own
    No way out and no way home

    Come on baby, it's time to sing
    Daddy gonna grab that old brass ring
    And if that old brass ring don't fit
    Daddy gonna get to fixin it

    And if that old brass ring stays broke
    Daddy gonna buy you a billy goat
    And if that billy goat don't bark
    Gonna give that goat the old kick start
    Old kick start

    What if all that was left was ashes and glass
    And I can't tell you child, "this too shall pass" (note 4)
    And if those four horsemen can't be turned away
    And everyone's too paralyzed to pray

    Too paralyzed to pray
    And the jury's out on judgement day
    And there ain't nothing left to say
    Nothing left to say

    Come on baby we can fly
    Daddy's got a stack of alibi's
    Alibi's shot full of holes
    Come on child, let's rock and roll

    And if that roll takes us to France
    Teach them Froggies how to dance
    Keep on dancin', sing the tune
    We'll be dancin' all around the moon

    And if that big old moon go bust
    Well ashes to ashes, baby, dust to dust
    Baby it's time for one last rave
    Keep on dancin' on our own graves

    On our own graves
    Keep on dancing
    On our own graves
    Keep on dancing
    Keep on dancing
     
  8. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    And I am sure you have looked into the Bible yourself despite the popular delusion that the Bible is an ancient myth?
     
  9. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    Oh YEHHH

    When the jews return to zion
    and a commet fills the sky
    and the holy roman empire rises
    then you and i must die
    From the eternal sea he rises
    creating armies on either shore
    turning man against his brother
    till man exists no more.

    about the Apoxylipse...way cool [​IMG]

    But this one [revelation 13:18]
    "Let him who hath understanding recon the number of the beast
    for it is a human number, it's number is six hundred and sixty six."

    Is just silly, cause occam lives at 664 [the neighbour of the beast?]
    And the guy at 666 is a loudmouthed greek who pebblecreted his entire house and yard.
    And STILL has'nt returned the hammer occam lent him last month.

    Anyway. EVERYONE knows that Ronald Wilson Reagan [6 letters in each
    name...666] was the real antichrist.
    And he failed to bring about armageddon because satan forgot to factor
    alzheimers into his final solution.
    Thus all ronald managed to do was indirectly cause the collapse of the USSR.
    Which pissed of satan no end.

    Religion is REALLY COOL. Occam can think of no other belief that generates
    such comedy.
    The only sad thing is that jesus the man has had his name stolen and his beliefs
    sodomized into a part of package that includes an old testament of
    horrific tales not fit for children to read.
    Especially this one

    Leviticus 20:9
    "If anyone curses their mother or father, they must be put to death."

    And this one truly describes the love of jesus for his fellow beings.

    Deuteronomy 7:1-2
    "When the lord your god brings you into the land you are entering to posses and drives out before you many nations.
    Then you must destroy them totally, make no treaty with them and show
    them no mercy"

    Occam
     
  10. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Occam, Why do you talk in the third person... that's just wierd.

    Ronald Reagan the antiChrist... never heard that one before... but I know for a fact that he was not the antiChrist.
     
  11. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    the point is:

    if and when, anything destroys our human species,

    dollars to doughnuts, it well be our own hand
    stabbing ourselves in our own back, and beliefs
    like christianity, are the will guiding our own hand to do so.

    war was the more obvious way, but that was once upon a time.
    now we no longer need war to do that. we're doing it
    with what we are doing to the natural environment
    upon which our existence utterly depends.

    this is not the fault of any god or demon, but of the pretense of belief being used to romantacise sensless, arrogant destructiveness. christianity is being used to do this. islam is being used to do this. capitolism is being used to do this. even frustration at seeing the stupidity of doing this is being used to some extent to do this.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  12. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    LOL

    wake up kid.. occam was playing u like a fiddle.
     
  13. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Haha... alright
     
  14. mr.morrison

    mr.morrison Senior Member

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    any one who is constantly saying "the bible doesnt say that" or "show me the proof its happening"

    1) read the bible if ytoiu wanna argue against it. you should always know your opponent in a debate
    2)after you read them, you can see alot coming true right now.
    and whoever was talking about how people thought that the stamp act was the mark of the beast was an idiot for using this as an argument. the people who belived this were stupid cause the mark is gonna be on your forehead or hand. it specifically states that in the bible, not some vaugue prophesy.
     
  15. LSDPsychonaut

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    But it could definatley be a metaphor.
     
  16. LSDPsychonaut

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    I agree. We're fucking ourselves in the ass.
     
  17. cswalters

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    People have been trying to predicted the end of the world, well as long as the world as been around, mostly everybody is pessimistic about everything, so the end of the world is always a good topic, I myself, would like to think about more happier stuff when I can, so why ponder on it, it only makes you depressed.
     
  18. JesusDiedForU

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    Yet, in the Christian aspect of it, it is the happiest day of their lives because the finally get to be with the creator.
     
  19. Occam

    Occam Old bag of dreams

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    JDFU

    But everyone dies anyway..so they get to be with their creator
    no mater what happens to the rest of the world.
    Occam read somewhere that many want the end of the world
    in their lifetime cause they dont want anyone else to get to keep living if they cannot. Scary psychology that one is.

    Occam
     
  20. JesusDiedForU

    JesusDiedForU Banned

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    Well Jesus will return to gather the rest of His people off earth before he judges the world and shows them that He is the God of creation.

    Anyone that says they want Jesus to come quickly so others will not get saved ... don't sound like Christians to me
     

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